Current system. Dailies only for Rep. JP/VP needs Rep.
Wrath/Cata system. Tabards and Dailies for Rep. JP/VP buys gear regardless of Faction.
I like a different system.
And again no, tabards were not fine.
As for what the content they plan on releasing is we'll see. The raids themselves are gated and so is lfr and that I understand to an extent because raids are probably harder to produce. I'm fine with that. Gating everything else behind rep though is just stupid. It's a huge fucking cock block. It's not like you make VP that fast anyway so it's already gated by the limited supply you get. On top of that you now have to have this rep faction as well that can only be farmed one way, on a daily basis and with an artificial limit set to it. JP gear is also practically fucking useless. Another mechanic to gate character progression. They went overboard, it's crazy.
As I said before I definitely feel that they should try to add an alternative to daily quests to gather rep for those who really don't like it, but it should still be restricted to the exact same amount per day, and be shared with it so you don't feel the need to do both.
Also it was Ghostcrawler I believe who said that the extra patches will mostly include daily quests and scenarios, it's not something I just made up.
Putting any restriction in is stupid. It's basically saying play every day or every week or whatever cap we set and fuck you. Daily quests are the worst example of this. Blizzard has progressively moved away from this over time and I'm not sure why they had an about face on this. Remember the change to VP from heroics that let you get away from doing it daily and 7 weekly? It's same thing with dailies man. In fact I'm shocked they haven't done this same thing with the daily quests, although it would be far more painful as dailies suck dick anyway you'd be grinding out god knows how many quests. In any event that just goes to show how limited and forced these daily quests are.
The entire thing is one big fucking cock block for no good reason for the consumers. It does buy Blizzard plenty of leway to get more content out of the way and that's not a particularly good reason IMHO. If they can't do a better job of releasing actual content in this expansion when their competitors do it with less resources available to them well then that doesn't say very much about them does it.
I'd also hardly call the gating "excessive". The expansion has been out a week and people want to have everything done already? Come on.
I will concede to your point that being restricted to dailies and questing for rep, when some people find questing tedious, is a good point, and there should be other ways of attaining rep, but there should be a daily or weekly limit on the rep you can get because as has been said, some people feel this pressure to grind it as fast as they can... because they can, and it feels forced, rather than something that's at all fun.
Last edited by The Batman; 2012-10-05 at 04:04 PM.
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Valor gear tied to faction rep
Faction rep tied ONLY to daily quests
Justice Gear being sub par and below heroic dungeon gear
JP and Vp gained at an extremely slow rate
LFR having an ilvl 463 requirement
LFr and normal raids unavailable till this week (and the rest of the raids following this month)
Caps on Vp on a weekly basis
I'm probably missing more. I don't expect to have everything done in the first week. I do expect not to be cock blocked at every possible opportunity. When people say they bitched about having nothing to do it it wasn't because the experience was to rewarding. Who in their right fucking minds thinks thats worth complaining about? They complained because their wasn't enough of it. You either make more or do more with less. Blizzard has elected to do more with less.
People asked, people whined and cried like babies for more of a Vanilla type of playstyle meaning you have to GRIND endlessly to obtain what you want. You wanted world bosses and more world pvp, remember all of the 'Vanilla was the best' threads, i do. I guess the majority got what the majority wanted, yet there are still complainers because you can not go from neutral to exalted in an hour, boo hoo.
If you want gear you have to grind to get it, at least you get this rep by doing the same sets of quests instead of slaying thousands of a certain type of mob. After everything is said and done there is actually more to do in this expansion that there ever has been. I personally love the additions to the game and will continue to like the future changes made because i adapt to the change, how else is a game that is 8 years old supposed to keep its subscribers?
If you do not like it cancel your subscription and don't inform everyone else that you did so.
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Being at work and cleaning those truly shit-smeared toilets is better than dailies. I get depressed whenever I log on to my only 90.
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Molten Front I completed as well, shortly before DS was released.
So even though I loathe dailes, I like vanity rewards, and I'll farm them during periods of low activity.
But after grinding through a crapload of quests to hit 90? I'd be willing to do 2-3 quick dailies for professions, but beyond that I don't want to do another daily for at least a month. Which effectively locks me out of most of MoP, since everything requires dailies if you want to do it well.
What I fail to see when people are all for the rep-grind and how it is great that you have to work for it and new and exciting.
No it's not. You get different dailies everyday, yes, but there's only about 3 different combinations of dailies to get. After a week of doing these dailies I'm already burnt out and I don't feel like logging in today to do my dailies.
I'm all for certain dungeons giving low amounts of rep to help the grind. Like in TBC. They just need something BESIDES dailies to let us gain rep because we all just quested non-stop to 90 and don't feel like doing that for the rest of this expansion.
Dailies being the only way to obtain rep is kinda dumb.
What they should have done is made certain rep factions earnable in certain dungeons, similar to TBC. The Tillers, Anglers, and the Cloud Serpent could stay daily only, but the rest of the factions should have had very little dailies but still be earnable through dungeons. For example MgP would give you Golden Lotus rep, while Shado-Pan Monastery would give Shado-Pan rep, etc.
I'm not a fan of "slap on tabard, spam random dungeons till exalted", but certain dungeons giving certain rep is okay in my eyes.
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Unless people can burn through rep quickly, it eliminates alts or it requires that rep not gate anything. But then if they can burn through it quickly, it doesn't keep people playing very much.
I think rep should gate cosmetic things, probably BoA things, and be gradually accumulated over the expansion.
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