Current system. Dailies only for Rep. JP/VP needs Rep.
Wrath/Cata system. Tabards and Dailies for Rep. JP/VP buys gear regardless of Faction.
I like a different system.
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A lot of people that have a problem with the new system, just want to get the best of the best of the best gear right NOW. NOW NOW, not in a week NOW. IF all you want to do is run dungeons, then you WILL have to settle with getting worse gear and at a slower rate, compared to those that play the game as intended. You can still get geared for LFR provided you did the Klaxxi chain as part of your leveling/gearing process. Their neck items at Honored are easily available when you have enough VP for them. Even if you didn't do enough Klaxxi to get Honored, you have the option of getting BOE gear, either from crafting or world drops.
And here's where the narrowminded comment enters the picture: Most people do not want to look beyond what they are used to doing. Most people want to be able to run dungeons and get a full set of WTFPWNAGE gear that enables them to go LFR or raiding and get an OMGWTFPWNAGE set of gear. And they can. They really really CAN do that. It just takes LONGER than it used to. For those of us that do not mind doing dailies, we get there too, just a bit sooner. Because we don't focus on one thing. We aren't narrowminded.
WOW players slay me!
You cry and cry for the good old days of Vanilla and BC, but when an old school rep grind is introduced you flip out!
@Ghostcrawler:Some advice: [My pet issue] is why there were sub losses is one of the weaker arguments players use. Players don't have that data.
Everything i heard about MoP was that there will be more options and everyone can choose to do things they enjoy but so far it seems like a non stop quest grind
... wait... are we talking about rep, VP/JP items, or heroic dungeons?
The current rep-system is fine, but only because it's pretty much orthogonal to other aspects of the game.
I'd still prefer the option of doing either dailies or tabard-based rep grinding (at least once I got to revered, because by then the dailies are no longer novel).
Except those grindy Vanilla reps were mostly for vanity items or people who were OCD about their rep bars. Argent Dawn was useful for raiding but was partly earned through dungeons and leveling, Hydraxian Waterlords and Brood of Nozdormu were earned from raiding, Wintersabers was awful but just gave a mount, Ravenholdt was pointless, can't remember what else there was...
They should honestly do both.
Get a tabard be at friendly rep and make it give rep until revered. People who want to do dungeons can, people who want to do dailies can as well. But if you want the vanity stuff, you have to go out and daily grind the way from revered to exalted.
I don't mind dailies, but I'd rather have a small amount of easy dailies that give lots of rep, rather than fifty thousand that give 1 each.
Exaggerations but yeah
you realize that everything they have done, in regards to rep being from dailies is because the PVP enthusiast's complained there was no world PVP.
now you are forced to go out and be in the world, instead of dungeon hopping whilst remaining in a city to get your rep.
Does it annoy me that I have to go do dailies if I want exalted with all factions and get the rewards, Damn right it does. Especially the gated ones.
Do I let it bother me ? No. I just go and get it done. its something to do between dungeons and raids, And guess what..... This is EXACTLY what blizzard stated they would do. Get more people out into the world. making the world feel alive again.
Annoying, Yes. Repetitive, Yes. Do I enjoy it ? YES. if I didn't I wouldn't play. so BIG thank you to the PVP enthusiasts who complained enough that there was no world PVP. Blizzard listened, And they done something about it. This must be the only time that I (as a PVE player on a PVE realm) can think of that a change that is so obviously designed to help populate the world and encourage PVP.
I just wish that there was gear available for every slot without the rep grind
There is ZERO cloth chest pieces with spirit between 450 ilvl and 476 (from LFR) without grinding rep. The only one in the game at 463 is from a quest from Golden Lotus revered.
I am all for things to do at 90, but when dailies are not actually optional and they take 3 hours every day to do all 48 by yourself, its not fun anymore.
And those complaining this is what we had in Vanilla and BC with reps and dailies. We never had this many dailies, there was half as many at max (25 cap), and far far far less that were actually needed each day to progress in the game
i dont like it at all
In Tbc you earned vanity stuff through dailies, and pre-raiding epics through reputation farm which was earned in normal and heroic dungeons, or by repeatable turn-in quests.
In MoP everything is daily quest based. If you don't log in each day your gear progression is slowed down. This is the exact model they went away from in Cataclysm when they changed it from 1 daily heroic to 7 weekly (for valor points). And that's not even mentioning the people who are not even interrested in doing dailies.
Want to spend your valor points? Good luck with rep farming.
Want access to LFR? Well either you farm dailies for several weeks to get your pre-raid epics, or you farm 200 heroic dungeons hoping you can get all your slots covered in 463 gear within that time frame.
I have all my crafting professions maxed and got the materials to make the gear I want? Good luck with rep farming.
The lack of alternatives in MoP is astonishing. Dailies have always been for vanity and nothing else in the 3 expansions beforehand.