Pandaren are a nice touch, but not made for Warcraft

[SmokeBlader]

I still don't get why people are STILL bashing Pandaren and blizzard for introducing them into World of Warcraft.
Here are a few tips for you kids:
First go play Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne.
Secondly stop being so ignorant and close minded, try having at least a little fun in your life not just hate and ignorance, i'm serious.

Hate is healthy...

[Hardstyler01]

First go play Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne.

And where exactly in that game are the Pandaren canon and not a joke easter egg? The extra Horde campaign?

[sam86]

So by following your logic there should be no gnomes in World of Warcraft.

No, because they existed in Warcraft2 but you ignored that (not to mention they had already established lore before Warcraft3)

Fifth race, actually. I remembered it wrong.

Back on 2003, Blizzard was soft on the jokes. Warcraft III players logged in into Battle.net to see their icons replaced by … The Lost Vikings. Blizzard announced the new Pandaren Empire race … originally a Samwise artwork joke. However, this was one of those rare April’s Fools that were widely loved by fans and became reality when Blizzard released Warcraft III: Frozen Throne. And to make sure fans won’t think it was a April’s Joke anymore, new lore was added in the Blizzard-licensed Arthaus’ Warcraft RPG: Alliance and Horde Compendium in 2003. Further Pandaren Lore has been added in future RPG Book releases such as Warcraft The Roleplaying Game, Warcraft RPG: Monster Guide, Warcraft RPG: Lands of Conflict, and Warcraft RPG: Magic & Mayhem among others.

Back in Warcraft III, the pandaren were originally introduced as the "fifth race" for the game as an April Fools joke that many people thought legitimate. But the pandaren's origins extend back even farther than that. In the first BlizzCast in January 2008, during an interview with Samwise Didier, creator of much of Warcraft's concept art (including the first pandaren concept art pieces), Didier commented on the creation of the pandaren.

It seems you forgot that Warcraft3 was released in 2001, TFT 2002 (the expansion), stating they will be added in 2003 as fifth race is evident to my point of view (after war3 release) not yours...

I like the part where you assume you know the attitude of an entire company based entirely around a single forum post from years ago.

Because Chris Metzen is one of 3 co-leaders of Blizzard back then, he is literally 1/3 of the company POV back then, so yes it is not a small thing he post in forums

[SmokeBlader]

And where exactly in that game are the Pandaren canon and not a joke easter egg? The extra Horde campaign?

Yep. Founding of Durotar campaign, where Rexxar finds Chen hanging out near Orgrimmar.

[AbalDarkwind]

And where exactly in that game are the Pandaren canon and not a joke easter egg? The extra Horde campaign?

Yes, the bonus Orc campaign which is canon. Are Rexxar and Rok'han just easter eggs, too?

[unholytestament]

And where exactly in that game are the Pandaren canon and not a joke easter egg? The extra Horde campaign?

Yeah. You know, the one that has been cemented in lore because the things that happened in it laid the groundwork for Orgrimmar, Theramore, many quests in The Barrens back in vanilla, and so forth. It's where we got introduced to Rexxar, Vol'jin, Baine, several others and Chen.

[sam86]

And where exactly in that game are the Pandaren canon and not a joke easter egg? The extra Horde campaign?

They are as "cannon" as Pingu the penguin, if I knew that they will build an entire expansion on pandas... I'd been demanding a much better introduce to them, specially before KFP shows up

[SmokeBlader]

They are as "cannon" as Pingu the penguin, if I knew that they will build an entire expansion on pandas... I'd been demanding a much better introduce to them, specially before KFP shows up

Penguins are awesome. I'd rather have a penguin-like race than Pandaren...

[sam86]

Just to be clear, also I hate pandas, they are in Lore and I don't ever claim they aren't anymore, I complain a past mistake (imo) but that doesn't make them any less official than Murlocs for example, I hated a lot the idea of killing Illidan but I hope to never see a setback, yes pandas sucks and don't fit in wow, but don't pull them out because some (or a lot, no idea) hate them, stick to your decision to the end, but learn from your old mistakes

[Immitis]

Just to be clear, also I hate pandas, they are in Lore and I don't ever claim they aren't anymore, I complain a past mistake (imo) but that doesn't make them any less official than Murlocs for example, I hated a lot the idea of killing Illidan but I hope to never see a setback, yes pandas sucks and don't fit in wow, but don't pull them out because some (or a lot, no idea) hate them, stick to your decision to the end

illidan is coming back, probably in the next expansion

[sam86]

Penguins are awesome. I'd rather have a penguin-like race than Pandaren...

I don't mind that but please don't build an entire expansion on them

[unholytestament]

Hey Sam, I really call into question your knowledge of WC3.

WC3 released July 2002
The Frozen Throne released July 2003 (which was after the April Fool's joke)

[Immitis]

I don't mind that but please don't build an entire expansion on them

but the expansion isnt about them... its about the war we bring to where they live... 5.0 we release the sha/stop the mogu/zandalari resurgence/mantid 5.1 we have a huge battle and destroy jade forest also the alliance help varian with the trials of the high king and wrathion furthers his plot. 5.2? 5.3? eventually the war gets so bad for the horde that garrosh does something despicable to win, varian leads an army of alliance soldiers and horde rebels to dethrone him

6.0 probably burning legion with illidan coming back and demon hunter hero class

[quras]

Hey Sam, I really call into question your knowledge of WC3.

WC3 released July 2002
The Frozen Throne released July 2003 (which was after the April Fool's joke)

They were still an April Fools Joke on April 1 2005. Well after WC3 and it's expansion. Be it a poke at EQ or the real life food delivery chain.

Even blizzard saw them as something to joke about.

[Immitis]

They were still an April Fools Joke on April 1 2005. Well after WC3 and it's expansion. Be it a poke at EQ or the real life food delivery chain.

Even blizzard saw them as something to joke about.

pandaren express = panda express. do they not have panda express where you live? its a chinese food delivery place

[Zakkleung]

I would just like to say this.



Ok this is Blizzards TBC april fools joke, the second new race (Alliance race) being Wisps. Blizzard obviously thought that the spirits and entities of Night Elves, the unit that builds up the entire Night Elf nation within the warcraft series was a joke.

At the end of the day, all of it is Blizzard's property, they can do what they like with it,
if they want to make a joke they make a joke, if they want to follow the lore of that
character/race/object they do so.

You can't just say, oh look they made a joke of (Insert item X) clearly they think that
(Item X) is eternally a joke.

[unholytestament]

Even blizzard saw them as something to joke about.

Which matters why? Blizzard makes jokes about many things.

[Kangodo]

You don't have the right to hate Night Elves, because they were in WC3 har har.
See what I did there? 99% of the responses I get are like this. You are not included yet. ''You can't dislike this race because they were in game X''

Aah, always the role of the victim!

People didn't start saying that till folks started screaming that they should have never implemented Pandaren, that they are a retarded joke-faction and how everyone that likes them is either an idiot or is a little kid.


If you don't like Pandaren, sure, not a problem.
You don't even have to justify your dislike.
But it gets an issue if people throw around lame arguments and are trying to convince others into hating the Pandaren.

[quras]

Which matters why? Blizzard makes jokes about many things.

Perception of course. Most of what we discuss in this thread is someones perception.

pandaren express = panda express. do they not have panda express where you live? its a chinese food delivery place

Nope don't have them.

[Immitis]

Perception of course. Most of what we discuss in this thread is someones perception.




Nope don't have them.

well there a big fast food chain. the joke was about everquest

see awhile ago everquest had a thing where if you typed / pizza ingame a pizzahut guy would come to your house and sell you a pizza in the joke if you typed /panda you would get sent chinese food