To all of the people defending Blizzard: I can appreciate your passion. I, too, have been passionate about the games and stories Blizzard has created since Warcraft I. The Pandaren have always fascinated me for the same reasons they likely fascinated you: they were mysterious. They had a different charm than the other races. And, Chen was fun! Now, we have an expansion about them, and I'm having a blast, learning about the lore, the conflicts of this mysterious continent, and the races that inhabit it.
However, you are not going to convince the people who actively hate the Pandaren. I have tried since the great Alliance Race debates of pre-TBC. Some people stick to their story that they were a joke and cannot be serious. I have discovered that this is simply because these people lack imagination. They want their doom and gloom and that is all. Maybe they'll come back when the Burning Legion returns. Or when Azshara and N'Zoth rise from the depths of the Great Sea. Who knows? But, more importantly, who cares? We are not going to change their minds, and considering the vast amount of positive word-of-mouth this expansion has already received, our case has been made. Let them flame, hate, and rage to their hearts are content. The fact of the matter is that the Pandaren and Pandaria are cemented in Warcraft lore now and are here to stay. Let's enjoy it.
To all of the people here who came to attack Blizzard: Why are you here? It seems obvious, to me, that you are hopelessly outnumbered compared to the people rushing to champion the Pandaren and this expansion. Considering the expansion is out and the Pandaren are playable, you voicing your displeasure is meaningless as there is absolutley nothing you can do to change Blizzard's mind at this point. There are plenty of other games out there to play, including the oft-mentioned Guild Wars 2. Why do you seek to shove your pointless, hateful rhetoric down people's throats? Do us all a favor and play and discuss the games you actually enjoy. I would suggest to be constructive in your negative opinions if you are adamant about sticking with WoW, but considering the nature of this discussion, I feel that there is no constructive feedback to be given. So, please, take your maliciousness elsewhere.
Professor of History at Dalaran University
No he doesn't, 90% of the people defending pandaren take any criticism towards pandaren and label it as hate, then write a prophetic wall of text about it even though their premise is wrong, which makes their entire follow-up wrong.
id even go so far as to say the pandaren embody EVERYTHING that is warcraft a noble yet slightly prideful and arrogant race, a bit of a smartass and love to party and fight.
in my opinion pandaren are the perfect combination of everything warcraft has ever been dark at times but with a hint of comedy mixed in
I have yet to see any constructive, negative criticism in this thread. As a side note, to quote a great man about your use of the word "prophetic", "I do not think that word means what you think it means."
Last edited by AbalDarkwind; 2012-10-06 at 03:34 PM.
Professor of History at Dalaran University
Were an April Fools Joke.
They really haven't been for nearly a decade - yes, the initial traction was due to positive fan reaction, but that is well in the past, and Pandaren are, and have been, a legitimate part of the lore for a while.
At some point you just have to let it go that it started as an April Fool's joke and move on.
People fear what they dont understand, and since being afraid of something is considered weak, they hate it instead to make themselves feel better about not understanding it.
Its a very neanderthal way of living your life, basic and doesnt involve much thought.
Each to their own, let them hate. As long as there are people that seek knowledge and understanding the human race will not devolve into Troglodytes.
I never said pandaren were a joke, not in this thread anyway, I mainly pointed out how they are too far out there to appreciate the blood feud that exists between the alliance and the horde. How unrelated they are to our heroes and our specific hardships.
Where were they during the First War?
Where were they during the Second War?
Where were they during the 2nd invasion of the Legion?
Where were they during the re-opening of the Dark Portal?
Where were they during Icecrown, when Azeroth's men and women held back Arthas' hand? Where would they be if we hadn't?
Nowhere. They'd all be dead and I'm surprised Deathwing didn't obliterate their continent to hell, after all he was the Earthwarder, he should have been aware of their existence. But I digress.
They're like children that step unto a battlefield to fight over who broke who's toy.
This is not their war.
This is not their universe.
As for his "personality" he didn't have a lot of screentime, but in that short time he showed a lot of character, mostly through his lines.
I have more problems to characterize Boba Fett, to be honest.