If you recall, Tirion was a popsicle for most of that fight. The only thing he and the Ashbringer did was to destroy Frostmourne. We, the players, held Arthas off for most of that fight, and we were the ones to land the killing blow.Arthas was not defeated by Azeroth's heroes, it was defeated by the Ashbeinger, a Naaru within a blade. Azeroth's heroes were on the verge of becoming the Lich King's most powerful lieutenants.
Without us, Thrall never would have gotten a clean shot. Without us, the Aspects would have been killed by Ultraxion while they worked their ritual. Without us to distract Deathwing, the Aspects and Thrall would have been destroyed by the second Cataclysm.Deathwing was not defeated by Azeroth's heroes, it was defeated by the ultimate powers of the Aspects.
Without us, those four Watchers would have remained under Yogg-Saron's influence. Without us to fight him, the Watchers would have been re-enslaved during that fight.Yogg'Saron was defeated with the help of his four Guardians, invested with titan powers.
And Malfurion would never have had the chance if the Alliance and Horde hadn't stalled the Legion's advance up the summit of Mount Hyjal.Archimonde was defeated by the Night Elves also sacrificing their immortality.
Or perhaps you willfully ignore the most important details of all of those encounters in order to make your skewed point.Perhaps all this happy happy tree shit about the future resting in mortal hands is just happy happy tree shit.
Professor of History at Silvermoon University
No, without these godly powers we as mortals would never have been able to finish the fight. We may be Gandalf's hobbits but Minas Tirith was saved by an army of undead, the Balrog was pushed back by magic and the Ring was destroyed by mortals even though it was the Ring's otherwordly powers which at times saved these mortals from failing their mission.
We are glorified vessels, nothing more. We are not capable of finishing a fight to save our lives, that is the job of gods and demigods. So let us war then.
As for your Lord of the Rings example, the final book is all about how necessary it is for Men to unite under the King in order to defeat Sauron. And, more importantly, without Frodo, the Ring would never have been destroyed. You are glorifying one side of the coin without acknowledging the importance of the other side.
Professor of History at Silvermoon University
op clearly hasnt actually quested through pandaria. the pandaren arent against war there against war without purpose there against hatred and violence they will fight but not for those reasons.
the horde and alliance are fighting this war over resources they want to go into pandaria and tear it to pieces that is made evident in garoshes orders. in 5.1 the alliance and horde warships will show up on the beaches of pandaria and jade forest will literally get destroyed in the battle.
varian will be give the high trials by the leader of each race of the alliance and they will name him their king. similar to the trials of Heracles. garrosh in order to try and turn the tides of war will do unspeakable things that makes even the horde turn against them.
at the end of mists varian will lead an army of alliance soldiers and horde rebels and dethrone garrosh then if things go out as wrathion keeps hinting the burning legion or some other dark force will attack us and -hopefully- illidan comes back along with turalyon and alleria and we stand united against the legion @_@
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
With would Illidan stand with us, he's been banished by his brother and forsaken by the people he's saved, labeled as a traitor of his race simply because he used demonic powers to defeat demons.
He's a martyr.
If anything Maiev might make a reapearance, although I never truly understood where she gets her powers from to challenge Illidan so boldly at all times. Perhaps they'll give us a Warden class with increased lore surrounding it, after all they made an appearance in Cataclysm.
Although mages would cry havok to another class having Blink.
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There is a gigantic amount of lore that was hastily written as a response to player demand after the initial appearance of pandas as a joke. There have also been demands for virtually every creature ever put in the game to appear as a playable race, yet blizzard don't humour those demands because they don't conveniently tie into an expansion that shamelessly begs for Chinese subscribers.
It's like talking to a brick wall with blizz fanboys, they can turn any old rubbish into lore and you will lap it up like some Jonestown cultist lol.
Last edited by Zaelsino; 2012-10-06 at 05:11 PM.