---------- Post added 2012-10-06 at 09:12 PM ----------
At the moment you are only able to get x amount of rep a day with a faction from dailies (excluding ones that allow rep outside of dailies, Cloud serpents etc). So what if they allowed tabards to let you get the same x amount of rep per day in dungeons but no more. It would just be an alternate way to dailies i cant really see any downside. And for elder charms etc maybe you get x amount of those at the end of the dungeon, valor rewards are already there.
That would be awesome. It is a change that has been proposed by very many. However if you read the original post I quoted they basically said no not gonna happen. Ghostcrawler has also let several tweets go that this isn't going to happen. It is rather stunning given their design goal or one of them at any rate was choice in how people play this expansion.
---------- Post added 2012-10-06 at 09:18 PM ----------
I could counter that the "you don't have to do them" is the mentality of slackers that come to raid unenchanted, without flasks and/or buff-food or have to take a break after 2 wipes for repairing but I don't want to measure everyone with the same yardstick.
Why does it need to be comparative? If you want to compare the dungeons to previous ones then they are much better as the loot that drops from them has a much higher ilevel. Now if that gear doesn't drop for you then it's just as rewarding as previous dungeons since that gear was not guaranteed to drop either.
They should implement another 'charm of good fortune' like stuff that you can buy with justice, to relieve some of the 'pain' with the endless grind. It would work the same way as the current ones, but only work in dungeons.
At least that increases the chance of someone getting the gear they want.
Not a guaranteed thing like getting gear straight away through justice, but it seems they're(blizzard) 'against' that at the moment, judging from their reluctance to make justice gear 463 level (even after the buff).
On that note, I wish lesser charm of good fortunes are just currencies.... Even after they changed it to stack to 180 I still have 3 slots of my bag occupied by them >.<
EDIT: I don't have a problem with the current system, and do think dungeons are rewarding 'enough' (which is subjective).
I just think that a 'charm' system may give more use to justice points.
I have to agree with BLizzard on this one. The dungeon system of rewards, and the Rep Grinds are exactly what was/is needed. It is easy as effort to have been Raid Ready when the 1st tier of the expansion was released. I'm a scrub and I was ready. If you aren't getting enough loot, I seriously suspect you will never be satisfied.
Anyone who would start a LFR group and drop just after the Boss fight that has their desired item isn't worth listening to. I mean, these dungeons are just a stepping stone, but the OP wants them to be the proverbial "Loot Pinata".
Not rewarding enough..... that is a laugh. To increase the rate of rewards would be to set us right back to where we were at the end of Cata. And no one was happy then. I don;t get like this often but, I think this Thread deserves the "L2P or GT*O" cliche. Simple as that.
Last edited by Uricidea; 2012-10-06 at 09:26 PM.
My only caveat would be that the valor points feel a little low and justice points feel a little useless. (especially in scenarios)
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The only problem I currently have with the Dungeons/raids is the RNG dropping items that no one in the group can use. For example, a 5 man with no mail wearers and all the bosses dropping mail. Pointless.
I'm glad for you that your conversations have turned out fruitful, but the negative under tones to your original post with your statement of "but I can't fucking help it" not only discredits your intelligence, with the unnecessary use of profanity, but also your future credibility should you post more (at least by me) by claiming that you couldn't help but spread discontent. That you were simply incapable and/or didn't have the willpower to not push the button to start a thread that ultimately consisted of your personal complaints towards the direction the game is taking at the moment. That is, unless you want to post a picture of yourself at gunpoint being forced to have this conversation in which case I'd advise contacting your local law enforcement as opposed to continuing the conversation here.Actually it hasn't turned out that way for the most part. I've had rather good conversations with people.
Also, in terms of "keeping up" you complain that you are being straw maned, or misrepresented, when in fact you started the thread and have been consistently quoted within within what appeared to be a troll posting to begin with.
All I'm saying is, perhaps you should take a moment and re-read over the threads you start, specifically when angry, to determine if the tone and wording are really what you are attempting to express because you may end up coming off quite differently than expected. Either that or screw civility and bang your head on the keyboard a few times at random, it's the Internets and I have Francis and porn to watch; just hope I do it in the right order...
Captain Planet said it best:[to stop bad threads such as this one].The power is yours.
Last edited by Inflammable; 2012-10-06 at 09:48 PM.