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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Splosion View Post
    They were a mage and a warrior. They sure as hell didn't heal me
    Nah, but they soaked a shitton of damage. Basically all damage on the fight comes from random target abilities and splitting that damage with 2 other players, well, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Nah, but they soaked a shitton of damage. Basically all damage on the fight comes from random target abilities and splitting that damage with 2 other players, well, yeah.
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=86369

    except it isn't split. Dungeon journal will tell you that

  3. #183
    Just soloed Ascendant council Definitely wasn't as hard as I'd expected, still had a few cds left over.

    Last edited by Malthanis; 2012-12-17 at 02:20 PM.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Splosion View Post
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=86369

    except it isn't split. Dungeon journal will tell you that
    Did not think that I would have to explain. The fact that the other 2 guys got every blackout, got several twilight blasts and fabulous flames, means you took a shit ton less damage. Now, since twilight blast is completely avoidable that is not really important, but still alot less movement for you.

    Blackout is basically the only ability that even hurts and those 2 extra players 100% negated that damage for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Did not think that I would have to explain. The fact that the other 2 guys got every blackout, got several twilight blasts and fabulous flames, means you took a shit ton less damage. Now, since twilight blast is completely avoidable that is not really important, but still alot less movement for you.

    Blackout is basically the only ability that even hurts and those 2 extra players 100% negated that damage for you.
    Fact: It's not a solo unless you're the only one in the instance. Could be a pretty clutch kill, but doesn't count as "solo" in my books.

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    Alright, I guess I'll just go record it again. Pretty sure blackout doesn't even land on valiona's main aggro target anyway, otherwise it wouldn't have been soloed by 85s.

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    It does, Blackout lands on you even when soloing. Plus having other people in the raid, even though the aoe things that hit people isn't split, if they are targeted thats 1 less for you to worry about.

    85s solo it because they know these tactics and play it smart.

    - Also Gz on AC Solo Dice

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwentyTwelve View Post
    It does, Blackout lands on you even when soloing. Plus having other people in the raid, even though the aoe things that hit people isn't split, if they are targeted thats 1 less for you to worry about.

    85s solo it because they know these tactics and play it smart.

    - Also Gz on AC Solo Dice
    Sigh, whatever. As I said I'll do it again, as I forgot just how these boards can be.

    Oh, and http://i.imgur.com/6REr2.jpg
    You want me to solo things properly? I do.

  9. #189
    Wasnt anything against you just saying it how it is... More people, easier the V+T fight gets...

    I'm sure you will kill it on your own next time, i have no doubt you are an 80, playing with the VERY bad scaling.~"solo things properly"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwentyTwelve View Post
    Wasnt anything against you just saying it how it is... More people, easier the V+T fight gets...

    I'm sure you will kill it on your own next time, i have no doubt you are an 80, playing with the VERY bad scaling.~"solo things properly"
    So suddenly soloing gets redefined because of level? Am I confusing stuff here or is that what you just said?

  11. #191
    Gonna be my last comment on this whole level 80 stuff, level 80s with mop gear, having double hp of the BEST raid content at lvl 80, that is broke, futhermore level 80s surviving enrages of bosses because they are NOT HITABLE says it all. Soloing is where you have to be aware, have knowledge of the fight and play smart, well done on soloing stuff it is cool, but it really isn't hard if you are / almost avoidance capped so that you never/almost never take a hit. There are even 80s who survive Sha/dealing millions of damage because of this...

    More onto the Thread... are there any level 90 paladins who are attempting any Fireland bosses other than Alys? I really wanna push forward on FL progress with my pally but lack of gear.. i can get 3 bosses around 1/3 but die. Any tried beleroc, or is paladins dps just not enough, not sure how much vengance we actually get from beleroc anymore since nerf to veng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwentyTwelve View Post
    Gonna be my last comment on this whole level 80 stuff, level 80s with mop gear, having double hp of the BEST raid content at lvl 80, that is broke, futhermore level 80s surviving enrages of bosses because they are NOT HITABLE says it all. Soloing is where you have to be aware, have knowledge of the fight and play smart, well done on soloing stuff it is cool, but it really isn't hard if you are / almost avoidance capped so that you never/almost never take a hit.
    To be fair, a level 80 soloing is still a solo. Might be cheesy, but still a solo. Personally, I just think soloing and "good kill" are mutually exclusive. And its funny to see people confusing the two concepts here.

  13. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Splosion View Post
    So suddenly soloing gets redefined because of level? Am I confusing stuff here or is that what you just said?
    You're practically immortal, so you get 10/10 for good thinking and 0/10 for skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondroc View Post
    You're practically immortal, so you get 10/10 for good thinking and 0/10 for skill
    Because the only solos I have videoed are stuff resulting from a bug that I discovered? Wait no, that's a lie. I know it's a bug, it's just amusing to zerg content intended for five levels higher.

  15. #195
    Is ICC 10 soloable? With what gear? Hope not skyrocket.. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heldamon View Post
    Is ICC 10 soloable? With what gear? Hope not skyrocket.. :P
    AQ20 - Easy.
    AQ40 - Easy. (C'thun was still a drag.)
    BWL - Easy. (I hate those fucking traps before Broodlord.)
    MC - Easy.

    Karazhan - Easy.
    TK - Easy. Kael'thas can be a douche, he's a Medium.
    SSC - Easy.
    BT - Easy.
    Hyjal - Medium.
    SWP - Easy/Medium

    Naxxramas 10 - Easy. Other than Thaddius.
    OS10 3D - Easy.
    Malygos - Easy.
    Vault of Archavon - Easy.
    Ulduar 10 - Medium.
    Trial of the Crusader - Easy.
    Onyxia - Easy.
    Icecrown Citadel - Medium
    Ruby Sanctum - Unsure.

    Bastion of Twilight - Hard/Impossible. (Halfus and Valiona are Medium.)
    Blackwing Descent - Hard/Impossible. (Magmaw and Omnotron are Medium..)
    Throne of the Four Winds - Hard/Impossible (Al'akir has been solo'd apparently).
    Firelands - Hard/Impossible. (Alysrazor is soloable as Retribution.)
    Dragon Soul - Hard/Impossible. (Mionelol has solo'd Morchok on her Paladin, massive shock gasp horror there though. )
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    Curious to know what brings Hyjal up to a medium? Much easier than Kaelthas or Lady Vashj IMO... Same with Thaddius, in 10-man he's a pushover, the hardest fights in 10-man Naxx are Patchwerk and Razuvious (I tend to solo as retri though).

    You can also add Onyxia and Halion to the easy list, at least in 10-man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightKnight87 View Post
    Curious to know what brings Hyjal up to a medium? Much easier than Kaelthas or Lady Vashj IMO... Same with Thaddius, in 10-man he's a pushover, the hardest fights in 10-man Naxx are Patchwerk and Razuvious (I tend to solo as retri though).

    You can also add Onyxia and Halion to the easy list, at least in 10-man.
    I'm pretty sure one of the bosses in Hyjal has a one-shot mechanic? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    How do you kill Stalagg and Feuden?(Excuse my poor spelling)
    Onyxia is indeed easy.
    Halion is impossible due to mechanics, I believe...?

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Helai View Post
    I'm pretty sure one of the bosses in Hyjal has a one-shot mechanic? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    How do you kill Stalagg and Feuden?(Excuse my poor spelling)
    Onyxia is indeed easy.
    Halion is impossible due to mechanics, I believe...?
    The pit lord in mount hyjal won't cast his sacrifice spell on the main target.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Helai View Post
    I'm pretty sure one of the bosses in Hyjal has a one-shot mechanic? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    How do you kill Stalagg and Feuden?(Excuse my poor spelling)
    Onyxia is indeed easy.
    Halion is impossible due to mechanics, I believe...?
    As Prot i just pulled Stalagg and Feuden together at the entrance of the room and made sure they died at the same time, there is alot of damage but nothing cooldowns cant fix

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