No, I am saying if you play the game as a grindfest it is a grindfest. Don't blame the game for a way you choose to play it.So your saying its only a grindfest if you play the game ? obviously O_o
No, I am saying if you play the game as a grindfest it is a grindfest. Don't blame the game for a way you choose to play it.So your saying its only a grindfest if you play the game ? obviously O_o
GW 2 along with WoW are both triple A games in terms of bug freeness. Yes there are bugs in both games, but 3 things I consider are: how gamebreaking they are (really haven't run into any gamebreaking bugs up to a lvl 75 zones), how hard it is to get around them (a free server transfer generally does the job) and how many there are. Diablo 3, on the other hand, was laggy to me 2 months after launch (and I haven't played after that to see if they fixed that). That WAS gamebreaking for a rack n' slash game, heck I don't understand why I had lag with D3 and not with WoW, simply dumb. So the fact that Anet gave a refund to the op only means that they think it was fair to give the op a refund for a game he didn't like, not that the game is broken.
I didn't do dungeons. Karma grinding was korean pvp grinding, lots of work for little reward, just like dungeon grinding. The professions were nice though, especially when you went back to get mats you missed out on. Though once you hit max all you do is make money. So the only way to get gear past that is to...grind.
Also a Korean grind is not a mentality, it is a game design. This game has lots of it, but if you like it that doesn't make it a revolutionary "non-grind korean grind!" like you apparently think it does. Though that concept is somehow so overwhelming that players like yourself fall back on bad logic to console themselves.
There is a flow in this game and the flow ends at farming for the legendary item or gaining pvp ranks at which point it turns into a grindfest.
Unless i deliberately choose to create artificial timesinks for myself (which i can do in any game really) the grindfest is inevitable.
You are not forced to do anything you don't want to. You can avoid the grindfest. There is plenty to do, you choose not do other things, hence its the players fault.
Why are you karma grinding if you don't like it? THERE IS NO REASON TO KARMA GRIND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. If you are after legendary yea it's a grind, but its a legendary what do you expect?I didn't do dungeons. Karma grinding was korean pvp grinding, lots of work for little reward, just like dungeon grinding. The professions were nice though, especially when you went back to get mats you missed out on. Though once you hit max all you do is make money. So the only way to get gear past that is to...grind.
Also a Korean grind is not a mentality, it is a game design. This game has lots of it, but if you like it that doesn't make it a revolutionary "non-grind korean grind!" like you apparently think it does. Though that concept is somehow so overwhelming that players like yourself fall back on bad logic to console themselves.
If you are doing dungeons because you want to grind out rewards thats your own damn fault not the games. Play the dungeon to play the dungeon not the imaginary carrot at the end of it. It seems like you want to either do a super grindy game with high reward or not have a grindy game with high reward and not play the game the way it's meant to be played.
In both cases theres MoP. Enjoy your pandas and your grind and stop blaming the game for what you do.
The grind is there for people who want it, there is the non grindy part of the game which is the highlight. If you only focus on the grind and not the rest of the game what exactly do you want Anet to do?
Last edited by zito; 2012-10-07 at 01:53 AM.
gw2 what you expect.
"We live in a world where a style of play that uses posession and passing to try and make spaces is made fun of.
While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
- Ronald Koeman.
While GW2 may not have the longevity everyone hoped it would. I think it shows a lot of class for the company to be so forgiving. Says a lot, I really do hope the game does well!
i only stated the truth which was that i played to max level, realized i had nothing to login in for, and have not logged in for a couple of weeks.
it's possibly that i got luck with a nice GM that really care, but be that or not, i still think it is worth a try.
I also did have the game pre purchased so maybe that could have played into it aswell.
Last edited by Brandoh; 2012-10-07 at 02:55 AM.
Yeah...you're either trolling or just ignorant of what a game really is. You act as if I was bashing the game, and I wasn't. I had finished every zone, helped every person in my guild as much as I could, got the crafted gear and leveled my crafts to max, played the market and made money. Once you do all that you end up with nothing but the grind left.
Also, what lets you dictate the way the game is supposed to be played? You sound all high and mighty for someone who doesn't know what the game was created for. Just give it up, GW2 is heavily reliant on grinding for end game things, and you can't deny that unless you just want to be stubborn as well as ignorant. Go to your cave now, and stop saying people are playing it wrong because they aren't playing it the way you like to play it.
Well, just to be fair here. You do need karma &/or gold for a quite a lot of things. Choosing to not get karma &/or gold is effectively choosing to not play the PVE portions of the game.
Grind is just about repetition to achieve advancement of some sort. Usually the same task(s) over and over. Which a lot of the PVE is basically.
Pirates attacking the farm, Krait attacking the farm, Risen attacking the farm, etc. There are like 4 DEs in the whole game; defend, collect, escort, kill. One is "grinding" in a certain fashion no different than World of Warcraft, Tera or Rift. Up you which game hides the repetition best.
You should not have got a refund. Seriously game companies are either being pushed into it or like Anet doing stupid shit like this. You bought the game and didn't like it....its not a fucking service you shouldn't get your money back for "opening the box", it worked perfectly fine, and because you "beat" it then finally decided you didn't like it. /facepalm.
Damn I hate stupid consumerism.
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Last edited by Edge-; 2012-10-07 at 05:14 PM.
I would take a bit of a issue with this statement in that you dont need to really do any serious grinding in order to get a set of gear adequate to do any content in the game. IF you want to go balls out and try to get that rare or exotic set in a short period of time then yes you are in for a grind but its a CHOICE the player makes not one that is required to enjoy the game for what it is in anyway. I have taken my time, have around 50% map completion have not finished all the zones on Orr, have not gone out of my way to grind anything other than what is required for normal zone completion of the zones I explore and I have managed to lvl two crafting profs to max AND craft my rare set.Well, just to be fair here. You do need karma &/or gold for a quite a lot of things. Choosing to not get karma &/or gold is effectively choosing to not play the PVE portions of the game.
So.. yes the PLAYER chooses to make it a grind. Its not required and hardly necessary to do so.
Last edited by Vexies; 2012-10-07 at 04:41 AM.
I bought 2 copies for my wife and myself. It only kept us occupied for a month, but still the game was everything that it was advertised it would be. It's not like it was a major let down like Diablo 3 was.
Its like ordering a pizza with anchovies, everyone tells you how they taste, yet... after you eat the whole pizza, you complain that you didn't like the taste of anchovies and want a refund.
Myself and a bunch of friends all got a refund, found the game incredibly dull. At least MoP is really fun. To each their own.
Originally Posted by Offhand