"I'm sorry, but I can't hear you over the sound of how bad ass my discipline priest looks."
And yes your whole posting here screems "Frustrated" all over the place. perhaps you need to cool down a bit and actually let people try to help you insted of rampaging in a post.
And linking world of logs is relatively meaningless for how the class is performing, yes druids and pally maybe overpowered but does that mean the other healers are performing normally? or are the druids and pallys performing normally and the others underperforming? .... it answers none of these issues.
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men: Jean Rostand. Yeah, Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour!.
Classic: "The tank is the driver, the healer is the fuel, and the DPS are the kids sitting in the back seat screaming and asking if they're there yet."
Irony >> "do they even realize that having a state religion IS THE REASON WE LEFT BRITTEN? god these people are idiots"
Disc sucks, holy is awesome.
Our holy was sporting ~40k HPS on our best Elegon attempt (9 minutes) the other day in 455 ilvl gear, when we were using 3 healers (switched to 2 now).
So this is my experience as disc.
Started heroics with full spirit gear and was struggling for mana. Hell I have to drink half the time. Now I thought this was just all healers having trouble with there mana.
Leveled my shaman and had about 3k spirit when i started to heal heroics. Zero mana issues, healing was a lot better and easier, never had the need to drink unless the tank pulled 3 packs.
So my shaman has more mana regen than my priest and more bloody healing than my priest.
Spirit shell is completely bloody useless and does not do more healing than say tranq or divine hymn.
Thinking of switching my main to my shaman from now on due to these issues. Was first healer to go oom and I have stacked spirit/gemmed/enchanted spirit every single place I can as disc. Currently got 9k spirit raid buffed. L2p issues on my side?
I have to say i was always disc and now its not even funny how bad disc is in PVE and PVP, shadow is junk as well. the only decent thing about a priest now is Holy is Viable for PVE. Out of the 3 healers we had Me as holy, resto shaman,resto druid, i was blowing there heals away. and it was rather fun as holy!... But i cant PVP anymore cause priests don't have a viable spec for PVP. I did arena with a frost mage against Dk/warriors all night and the warrior was hitting me for 80K a pop, i died instantly and i was in all PVP gear, a mixture of crafted and honor gear. It just loks like i got to level something else for PVP and it SUCKS
SSh is really nice when you know you have a large hit incoming.
Sha of doubt 2nd phase > SSh > Prayer of Healing spam, no one takes damage the entire phase.
The main problem I've found with it is that it ends up basically just delaying heals you're going to have to cast anyway during extended fights.
If you SSh, and shell someone who is at say 50%, you still have to heal them up afterwards, because either A) The shell will be broken and they'll drop below 50%, or B) The shell will time out and they'll still be sitting at 50% and start taking more damage.
It'd be nice if it at least converted any absorb left over into a heal for that amount if it expires without being broken.
It isn't super useful in the middle of fights, because if there's a lot of damage going around, you have no time to build it up before a hit you know is coming. I only end up using it when there's a light damage phase right before a heavy damage one.
The Abbot at first tried to console Pai Mei, only to find Pai Mei was... inconsolable.
Problem with disc is not how good they can absorb. They do this great and SS is awesome. The problem is disc is shit to get people back up. They need at least a little throughput. And it's worst on 10 man because you want to 2-heal some fights.
Only thing disc is good at now is farming heroics. Disc is great to speed things up.
And, captain obvious, thanks for mentioning that "spirit is king right now", i'm sure we didn't get that yet.
Bullshit, he did post information backing up his claimed problems. He spoke about his experience playing a priest and why it makes him think disc priests are crap right now. It is actually YOU who dont provide anything whatsoever to invalidate his claims. So nice try there. Where's your hard data, or whatever, showing disc priests are doing well in a competitive environment compared to other classes? Yeah, that's right, you don't have any. So next time think twice before trying to be the smartass.
And even more laughable: when he provides logs you discard them as meaningless. So what is meaningfull evidence to you then, knowing you haven't provided anything at all??
Good evidence would be http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...4030736?page=1 That post gives hard numbers to prove Discipline's lack of output and efficiency (and possibly suggesting that Holy Paladin Mastery should be toned down).
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Had some very sad times healing 10m Will of the Emperor today. I decided to go Disc this fight for ideally stronger tank healing since the tank damage is so heavy and spiky. My numbers were in the mid to low 20k HPS range. I was incredibly depressing, feeling like I'm doing all I could yet doing less healing than I was in DS gear at level 85 (currently in 470 gear).
HPS and regen feel so horrible. I don't have a proposal of how to fix Disc Priests, but I really hope some fix is made soon. A little sad to know that doing 22k HPS has me ranked at #16 for Disc Priests on Will10, clearly showing a lack in Disc Priests and horrid healing numbers.