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  1. #1021
    I have a brewmaster offspec for old content soloing (but not too old, otherwise I use my mistweaver main spec), and I was shocked by how poorly I fare in the Proving Grounds, struggling with silver, though occasionally beating it on a fluke. Gold seem way out of my reach.

    My soloing skills are so that during patch 5.3 I managed a Zul'Aman bear run on the second try with full season 13 stuff (ilvl 489), and I could have done it on the first try if I hadn't got lost (I was really discovering the instance). But on the other hand, I can't get Magmaw below 78% before wiping.

    So my question is, is it worthwhile to stick to Proving Grounds, or would I be better off in some Cataclysm instance to train my soloing skills?

    Is there any boss of intermediate difficulty between Zul'Aman timer and Magmaw, so I can try a smoother solo progression?

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    Quote Originally Posted by faelis View Post
    I have a brewmaster offspec for old content soloing (but not too old, otherwise I use my mistweaver main spec), and I was shocked by how poorly I fare in the Proving Grounds, struggling with silver, though occasionally beating it on a fluke. Gold seem way out of my reach.

    My soloing skills are so that during patch 5.3 I managed a Zul'Aman bear run on the second try with full season 13 stuff (ilvl 489), and I could have done it on the first try if I hadn't got lost (I was really discovering the instance). But on the other hand, I can't get Magmaw below 78% before wiping.

    So my question is, is it worthwhile to stick to Proving Grounds, or would I be better off in some Cataclysm instance to train my soloing skills?

    Is there any boss of intermediate difficulty between Zul'Aman timer and Magmaw, so I can try a smoother solo progression?
    I don't think Proving Grounds will make you much better for soloing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faelis View Post
    I have a brewmaster offspec for old content soloing (but not too old, otherwise I use my mistweaver main spec), and I was shocked by how poorly I fare in the Proving Grounds, struggling with silver, though occasionally beating it on a fluke. Gold seem way out of my reach.

    My soloing skills are so that during patch 5.3 I managed a Zul'Aman bear run on the second try with full season 13 stuff (ilvl 489), and I could have done it on the first try if I hadn't got lost (I was really discovering the instance). But on the other hand, I can't get Magmaw below 78% before wiping.

    So my question is, is it worthwhile to stick to Proving Grounds, or would I be better off in some Cataclysm instance to train my soloing skills?

    Is there any boss of intermediate difficulty between Zul'Aman timer and Magmaw, so I can try a smoother solo progression?
    Tbh the proving grounds isnt brilliant at testing your soloing skills. All your gear gets scaled down is 1 factor but also the fact that half the mobs hit insanely hard and you are relying on the other monk to heal and dps them down for you whilst popping as many cooldowns as you can to survive the later waves.
    Whilst learning how to brewmaster I constantly soloed and ran heroic dungeons and tried as big pulls as I could and did my best to survive. Magmaw isnt probably the best boss to learn how to solo as its not literally tank and spank, theres quite a bit of movement involved to avoid getting blasted into outer space and getting eaten half way through. Its also quite a bit bursty at times and gets fairly annoying for a lesser geared tank. Imo a good place to start soloing would be firelands as it has plenty of different mechanics you will need to learn how to survive for instance saving elusive brew stacks on Baleroc to survive decimation blade. If nothing else the trash is quite decent with different mechanics you will need to learn to survive. Also the difficulty of the fights seems to increase slightly as you get further into it.
    Last edited by mjolnrik; 2013-09-21 at 07:30 PM.

  4. #1024
    Dunno if anyone else has done it before today but :
    Solo'd LK25H as WW, quite easy with the new TeB healing effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miuh View Post
    Dunno if anyone else has done it before today but :
    Solo'd LK25H as WW, quite easy with the new TeB healing effect
    Fairly nice. Vid next time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moounter View Post
    I think your problem is a lack of intellect.

  6. #1026
    Has anyone had luck on soloing sha of anger?

  7. #1027
    How are the MW solo's going these days? I've been doing a fair bit of Cata normal modes as BrM/WW but thinking about ditching BrM for MW instead of having to respec all the time (I only uise BrM for solo).

    Still waiting on Trispec

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjolnrir View Post
    Tbh the proving grounds isnt brilliant at testing your soloing skills. All your gear gets scaled down is 1 factor but also the fact that half the mobs hit insanely hard and you are relying on the other monk to heal and dps them down for you whilst popping as many cooldowns as you can to survive the later waves.
    I didn't really expect to become decent at soloing through the Proving Grounds, but I thought struggling at silver to be so abysmal that something but be wrong that the fundamental brewmastering level, which might have been trainable there.

    IOW I'm still unsure whether I'm already good enough to be beyond the level where PG helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjolnrir View Post
    Whilst learning how to brewmaster I constantly soloed and ran heroic dungeons and tried as big pulls as I could and did my best to survive. Magmaw isnt probably the best boss to learn how to solo as its not literally tank and spank, theres quite a bit of movement involved to avoid getting blasted into outer space and getting eaten half way through. Its also quite a bit bursty at times and gets fairly annoying for a lesser geared tank. Imo a good place to start soloing would be firelands as it has plenty of different mechanics you will need to learn how to survive for instance saving elusive brew stacks on Baleroc to survive decimation blade. If nothing else the trash is quite decent with different mechanics you will need to learn to survive. Also the difficulty of the fights seems to increase slightly as you get further into it.
    Thanks a lot for the advice. It wouldn't have occurred to me to try firelands when I'm hitting a wall on the first boss of the previous tier. I guess I will have to spend days doing Hyjal dailies before getting access to the trash, right?

  9. #1029
    I did...

    -tempest keep
    -onyxia 10 and 25
    -obsidian sanctum 10 and 25
    -black temple (full)

    I'd love to solo malygos but the drake fase seems impossible, any help on that would be great!
    Last edited by nightstalkerr; 2013-09-22 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightstalkerr View Post
    I did...

    -tempest keep
    -onyxia 10 and 25
    -obsidian sanctum 10 and 25
    -black temple (full)

    I'd love to solo malygos but the drake fase seems impossible, any help on that would be great!
    It's actually incredibly easy. I forget which numbers which, but just build to 3 CP's then use the finisher.... keep building stacks for insane damage and don't let them drop. Avoid the avoidable damage, and throw yourself the odd heal, once again, not letting the DPS stacks drop.

    It's essentially the same strat as when the content was current, just with the self healing. Should be plenty of youtube vids to watch, regardless of class..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightstalkerr View Post
    I did...

    -tempest keep
    -onyxia 10 and 25
    -obsidian sanctum 10 and 25
    -black temple (full)

    I'd love to solo malygos but the drake fase seems impossible, any help on that would be great!
    As the phase starts with the red drake stack 5 hots on yourself and keep them rolling, believe that's the three key. Once maly is targetable move into the rotation of 1,1,2,3. 2 CPs are generated by 1, giving you a long enough debuff from 2 to regen enough energy to restart the process. You hit 3 again to keep the 5 stack constantly rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Fairly nice. Vid next time?
    I will next week yeah.

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    I'm soloing icc for the frost wyrm however I'm stuck on two achievements on my mistweaver
    1. once bitten twice shy- how do you become a vampire and the second portal jockey- i don't see any portals >.<

    also i tried to solo ulduar however the first event is really exhausting having to solo all that is there anyway to quickly do it ?

  14. #1034
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    I'm soloing icc for the frost wyrm however I'm stuck on two achievements on my mistweaver
    1. once bitten twice shy- how do you become a vampire and the second portal jockey- i don't see any portals >.<

    also i tried to solo ulduar however the first event is really exhausting having to solo all that is there anyway to quickly do it ?
    If you try soloing it you will always become a vampire for once bitten twice shy. Its how not to become 1 which is the problem. For portal jockey you basically have to heal the dragon up before the portals spawn since else 6 portals spawn and you cant enter all of them. I think you need roughly 130k hps single target to heal her up intime

    As for ulduar, yea the first event is annoying. If you are trying to do it 25man then you can switch it to 10man and kill the first boss easier and switch back to 25man afterwards. Always talk to bran, else it starts with all towers being up and either you will be doing it hard mode or have to go around killing the towers.
    The next suggestion, I havent tried but would probably be doable. You can probably skip killing the towers, just go straight to the boss zone and kill the big giants there. Make sure you start in a demolisher and keep your stacks of pyrite up and it will probably be easy. Only problem is, there will be a ton of iron dwarfs attacking you which could be a problem in numbers. Not sure about that.
    If you insist on killing every tower on your way then start in a seige engine as they are much better at destroying towers and the big giants, then wen you get to the boss zone, kill the iron dwarfs surrounding the area, kill the last big guys and pull the boss. Then retreat past where the golden line will spawn and reset the boss. Then you can take a demo and its easy mode
    Last edited by mjolnrik; 2013-09-22 at 12:37 PM.

  15. #1035
    Quote Originally Posted by mjolnrir View Post
    If you try soloing it you will always become a vampire for once bitten twice shy. Its how not to become 1 which is the problem. For portal jockey you basically have to heal the dragon up before the portals spawn since else 6 portals spawn and you cant enter all of them. I think you need roughly 130k hps single target to heal her up intime
    I read somewhere that you can heal the dragon up with Zen Sphere without actually starting the encounter; it just takes a few minutes to do so. And last minute before she reaches full you can start the encounter and finish her off. Haven't tried this myself so need some kind of confirmation on this but it might be worth a shot?

  16. #1036
    Quote Originally Posted by Imbalanced View Post
    Has anyone had luck on soloing sha of anger?
    I tried and the damage is insanely low but I dont see how it will ever be possible since he mcs you and it resets the fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigeotto View Post
    I read somewhere that you can heal the dragon up with Zen Sphere without actually starting the encounter; it just takes a few minutes to do so. And last minute before she reaches full you can start the encounter and finish her off. Haven't tried this myself so need some kind of confirmation on this but it might be worth a shot?
    Haven't heard that with Zen Sphere, but def. Healing Sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightstalkerr View Post
    I'd love to solo malygos but the drake fase seems impossible, any help on that would be great!
    1,1,2,3 .. 1,1,2,3 .. will kill him without problems. Just don't stand in the fire!

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    Yogg25 +0 is super easy as windwalker due to the insanity bug. Just thought I'd give it a try and one shot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedi View Post
    Yogg25 +0 is super easy as windwalker due to the insanity bug. Just thought I'd give it a try and one shot it.
    Oh rlly? What ilevel are you? And whats this insanity bug?

    On a slightly different topic, has any1 tried stone guards normal since the patch? I found my dps had dropped about 60k even with much better gear because of the vengeance nerf. Would like to hear other peoples thoughts

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