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    GTX670 Temperature.

    Hey,

    So i recently purchased an asus dcII gtx670. And i noticed it's quiet, really quiet. So quiet i went and enabled in-game monitoring.
    During an intensive game it runs up to 65-71degrees, with the fan still at 10%. Is this by design, or would it be better to bump the fanspeed a bit.
    If the GPU and thermal grease can handle this no problem, i'd rather keep the fan at the lowest RPM possible. Because these bearings are never really good in vga fans. (posted a thread about that one earlier).

    Case it's housed in is a CM690 nvidia edition, with all the optional casefans, and an extra 80mm placed infront of the vga area. So i think airflow is quite sufficient.

    EDIT: Also i checked out the PCB before i installed it, seems as though they fitted heatsinks on the power supply. This would mean they can run the fan so low by default. But this brings me back to the original question above

    Thanks in advance

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    Last edited by Majesticii; 2012-10-07 at 10:54 AM.

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    What is an "intensive game"?

    Whenever I play BF3 my temps are at around 55-58 on stock settings.

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    Is that with vsync? Mainly with games that run without vsync @99% gpu load. Like crysis2, and metro2033. Borderlands2 it's arround 60 indeed.
    Card is stock settings aswell. But yours has a factory OC right

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    65~71 degrees isn't an issue tbh, you should only worry if it hits 85+. Using a program like MSI Afterburner or the like, you could set the fan speed manually as an alternative. I run my Palit 670 Jetstream at mildly overclocked settings, over the default OC (1085gpu/3300vram) with the fans set to 50%, which results in no more noise than idle mode, the card itself hitting about 45~50 degrees. However, if I set the fans at 56% or above, it instantly starts to sound like a mini vacuum cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Is that with vsync? Mainly with games that run without vsync @99% gpu load. Like crysis2, and metro2033. Borderlands2 it's arround 60 indeed.
    Card is stock settings aswell. But yours has a factory OC right
    The factory OC is just a little bump, I bought the Top edition mainly for the backplate, I don't have Vsync turned on when I'm playing FPS games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    The factory OC is just a little bump, I bought the Top edition mainly for the backplate, I don't have Vsync turned on when I'm playing FPS games.
    Backplate is also on the normal DCII, least on mine it is

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    Nothing wrong with those temps, don't worry about it.

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    Today i played some Crysis 2 (all dx11 features and highres textures) and it hit 78degrees. Same temps during Trine2 (@extreme). Now, these games are reknown for running the card hotter than normal, but can anyone with a similar card confirm? I've read it could have something to do with fastening the heatsink screws, but i'd rather not remove the card again if i don't have to.

    Here's a furmark trend, if you dont have these games:
    it hit 81deg @ 49% fanspeed
    http://www.imagebam.com/image/03cac2214340206
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2012-10-09 at 08:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Today i played some Crysis 2 (all dx11 features and highres textures) and it hit 78degrees. Same temps during Trine2 (@extreme). Now, these games are reknown for running the card hotter than normal, but can anyone with a similar card confirm? I've read it could have something to do with fastening the heatsink screws, but i'd rather not remove the card again if i don't have to.

    Here's a furmark trend, if you dont have these games:
    it hit 81deg @ 49% fanspeed
    http://www.imagebam.com/image/03cac2214340206
    That seems to me like a problem with airflow/case cooling. Was the system idling around 40~45 degrees? It appears to be starting quite high from the Afterburner charts. If so, you may want to look at ways of dispersing the heat more effectively, it looks more like the system can't pump out the hot air, so it's just sitting there.

    My 670 idles at 27 degrees and intense gaming pushes it up to about 50~65, but as soon as I stop playing (within 1-2 minutes) it will be back down to 30~ degrees.

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    I recently got an EVGA GTX670. No special naming, just their standard card. In my 800D (gotta love how little airflow there is around the GPU area *rolls eyes*), i can't push it above 80C no matter how much i try to. It idles at around 47C -- again, due to the case airflow and not the card, but is almost silent. I have the advantage that my CPU cooler does it's job excellently and that my HDD heat never ever get's into the main area.

    I can push the temp down to around 40C idle with a custom fan profile but it really is simply that my case doesn't do well with air cooling GPU's. With this same profile, i can see full load and only get 70C, but it's very loud. In the end, it comes down to how tolerant you are to noise. Since my whole system is almost silent, my tolerance is low and so i leave it with the default fan settings.

    Obviously, a third-party/non-reference cooler will usually perform better and so my temps should be taken as an expectation of highest temps you'd see with the card.

    Until you start hitting 94C or above, you shouldn't worry. 94C is generally when they start to throttle their base clock. The stock cooler on the 670's is surprisingly good, though the general thermal design of Kepler itself is excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzai View Post
    That seems to me like a problem with airflow/case cooling. Was the system idling around 40~45 degrees? It appears to be starting quite high from the Afterburner charts. If so, you may want to look at ways of dispersing the heat more effectively, it looks more like the system can't pump out the hot air, so it's just sitting there.

    My 670 idles at 27 degrees and intense gaming pushes it up to about 50~65, but as soon as I stop playing (within 1-2 minutes) it will be back down to 30~ degrees.
    I took that screenshot after the 15min test. Zo it didn't have time to settle back again (you can see the graph still declining). Idle temperature is about 24 degrees(you can see that @ min temp). Casefans present: top 2x Yateloon 1500rpm 140mm blowing upwards, bot 1x140mm stock CM casefan blowing inwards, back 120mm enermax apollish blowing outwards, side: 80mm enermax apollish facing cards, front: 140mm stock casefan blowing inwards. It kept a SLI 460 system cool, i'm pretty convinced i got enough airflow.

    But you said intense gaming, what about furmark? Because gaming doesn't nearly push the TDP like furmark does. Ill see if i can unplug the card and gently tighten the heatsink screws, but maybe contact ASUS first.
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2012-10-10 at 11:32 AM.

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    the 670 throttles at 70C + keep it under that, whack the fan on auto and you most likely wont hear a peep out of it anyhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    I took that screenshot after the 15min test. Zo it didn't have time to settle back again (you can see the graph still declining). Idle temperature is about 24 degrees(you can see that @ min temp). Casefans present: top 2x Yateloon 1500rpm 140mm blowing upwards, bot 1x140mm stock CM casefan blowing inwards, back 120mm enermax apollish blowing outwards, side: 80mm enermax apollish facing cards, front: 140mm stock casefan blowing inwards. It kept a SLI 460 system cool, i'm pretty convinced i got enough airflow.

    But you said intense gaming, what about furmark? Because gaming doesn't nearly push the TDP like furmark does. Ill see if i can unplug the card and gently tighten the heatsink screws, but maybe contact ASUS first.
    With that type of cooling in place, I would definitely expect it to run cooler. I'd agree with checking that the heatsink is properly seated and nothing's interfering with it. Furmark has the same results for me as the gaming I mentioned (Battlefield 3, 32-64 player maps, 1920x1080, everything ultra, 16xCSQAA). It may be worth getting the card RMA'ed, if you want to overclock it or the like, but if not, it is running within an acceptable range, just a little hotter than would be liked.

    Addendum: Decided to go through some reviews of of the default 670s compared to the ASUS DCII and it seems as though the card is running at fairly standard temperatures for you. Testing at 52% fan speeds gave HARDROCP temperatures of about 68 degrees under full-load. However, if it is constantly hitting 84 degrees, you may have a minor issue.
    Last edited by Shinzai; 2012-10-10 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Addendum

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    Love how everyone calls my GTX 465 hot running, ive never seen the card over 68c....while this person is reporting 71c on a brand new card with lower power usage which should translate into lower temps. Maybe reference just runs that much hotter than aftermarket versions like the twin frozr?

    Also, triggy there is no way that card throttles at 70c. All things considered that is a reasonable temp for a GPU of any make/model, no way a manufacturer would set such strict limits on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Love how everyone calls my GTX 465 hot running, ive never seen the card over 68c....while this person is reporting 71c on a brand new card with lower power usage which should translate into lower temps. Maybe reference just runs that much hotter than aftermarket versions like the twin frozr?

    Also, triggy there is no way that card throttles at 70c. All things considered that is a reasonable temp for a GPU of any make/model, no way a manufacturer would set such strict limits on that.
    The ASUS card is not refference, not in PCB or cooling (it uses a modified 680 board). However, i do agree it wont throttle at 70, because then i would've noticed it in games where it goes over 70.

    So i redid the test again:


    What makes me think it has bad contact is the initial bump in temperature. This goes a little bit fast, indicicating a lower thermal capacity, which would indicate bad contact. Going to verify by checking screws now.
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2012-10-10 at 04:30 PM.

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    Surely this has been asked already, do you live in a hot area without air conditioning? This makes a massive difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Love how everyone calls my GTX 465 hot running, ive never seen the card over 68c....while this person is reporting 71c on a brand new card with lower power usage which should translate into lower temps. Maybe reference just runs that much hotter than aftermarket versions like the twin frozr?

    Also, triggy there is no way that card throttles at 70c. All things considered that is a reasonable temp for a GPU of any make/model, no way a manufacturer would set such strict limits on that.
    The core boost/kepler boost throttles down at 70C. This is a kepler only feature. If the card is drawing too much power or heat, it's drop the turbo by 13mhz steps. The first step drop is at 70C. The other steps are 80C, then 85C and lastly at 95C. Provided the card's thermals and power are in check/not excessive, this won't happen. You could equate it to something similar to Speed step, except it's only doing it on the additional boost the core provides, and not on the base clock.

    I thought that true throttle would occur at 94C as that's somewhat of a traditional temperature for it to happen, but it seems that it's now higher than this (and i'd imagine it'd probably be at 102C at a rough guess).
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    Ahh just the core boost throttles, i can see that :P

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    Aha, i see your point now also. From my first screenshot. Well i completely refitted the heatsink. But not a real big difference. Right now it's not really an issue i guess, if performance becomes an issue, ill bump the fan a bit. Thanks for the reactions thusfar!

    For my location, see my description. I live in the netherlands, roomtemp is about 19-20deg. No AC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Ahh just the core boost throttles, i can see that :P
    sorry should have clarified. trust me, 70 is the magic point and as Synthaxx stated its a kelper only feature because of the dynamic boost. I have my 670 under water so never go over 51c when stressing with furmark, never much over 40c while gaming . Love this card.

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