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    Ink Trader Changes and Vengeance Hotfix

    Ink Trader Exchange Change
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    Beginning after the maintenance on Tuesday, October 9, ink traders will be converting from accepting Blackfallow Ink to accepting Ink of Dreams and Starlight Ink will become available for purchase. If you’re still holding on to your Blackfallow Ink, your time to trade it in is running short.

    Vengeance Hotfix
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    A hotfix will be applied to adjust how Vengeance stacks for tanks of all classes:

    • Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    This will be noted in the next hotfix update, but we wanted to let you know immediately, as this change will be applied sometime today.

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    High Overlord Pannekaker's Avatar
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    Go ahead, buff Vengeance even more... :P

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    no! i was loving 15g stacks of whiptails and selling shoulder enchants
    on positive note i guess i can do more darkmoon cards
    Last edited by endless; 2012-10-08 at 10:12 PM.

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    Because 100k aoe tanks just wasn't enough :P

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    Greaaaat! come some Glyphs Todo!

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    I'm stuck with 3000 Ink of dreams in my bank, this change hasn't come nearly soon enough.

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    Great timing as I just started farming cata herbs again to top up blackfallow ink

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    Am I reading that correctly? is that a buff to vengeance?

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    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?

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    This is great news for Prot Paladins.

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    FINAAAALLY, 12k+ white inks. So ready to get rid of them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treelife View Post
    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?
    You should get your facts straight

    Buffing everyone while making a few minor things better, doesnt make something worse. It still makes DK's better, it just benefit avoidance stackers slightly more.

    Fact is: Vengeance will be better than before, so dk's will be better.
    "I like big pulls and i cannot lie, you other brothers cant deny, when a mob walks in, or maybe 10, all lined up for a spell, you press 2!"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treelife View Post
    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?
    This change is an addition to how Vengeance works. Previous you would potentially lose an increase to your Vengeance by increasing your avoidance (parry/dodge). Avoided damage is damage not taken, damage that was not increasing your Vengeance. Absorbs are not "Avoidance." Now an increase to your avoidance (gear upgrade) doesn't potentially cost you increases for your Vengeance stack.
    Last edited by openair; 2012-10-08 at 10:25 PM.

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    Tanks really didn't need to do any more damage. They should have just buffed their threat by another 300%.

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    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.

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    Damn you Blizzard!! I've sold 1k inks already ¬¬

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melancolie View Post
    You should get your facts straight
    I was asking a question, not stating facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by openair View Post
    This change is an addition to how Vengeance works. Previous you would potentially lose an increase to your Vengeance by increasing your avoidance (parry/dodge). Avoided damage is damage not taken, damage that was not increasing your Vengeance. Absorbs are not "Avoidance." Now an increase to your avoidance (gear upgrade) doesn't potentially cost you increases for your Vengeance stack.
    Yup, makes sense now - it did seem silly the way I read it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowdplzr View Post
    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.
    I'm guessing you don't understand how vengeance works. /facepalm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowdplzr View Post
    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.
    lmfao, maybe you're the one who needs to "L2Read"

    No where did it say anything about not being able to have over 100k AP or that they capped anything...
    Then you go and bold random parts of the sentence that has nothing to do with what you're talking about...

    Maybe you should try reading this again, but this time bold will now grant Vengeance and instead of just refreshing existing

    so, something that used to just refresh the current vengeance, will now give vengeance.

    Yup, you're right, guess they did nerf it and cap it... /sigh... Now I see why people at Blizzard have been dumbing down the game the past 4 years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Because 100k aoe tanks just wasn't enough :P
    u mean 200k

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