Which DPS class has the most survivibility?

[Nyon]

I laugh that all people do is complain about warriors because they can pop cooldowns and get a couple kills every 3 minutes and they haven't learned how to kill a warrior through Second Wind...

And it instantly became obvious that your main is a warrior and your too dumb and stubborn to admit how op they are because then they might get nerfed and you wont be able to get above 2k rating this season either.

"pop cooldowns and get a couple of kills every 3 minutes."
So its not op in arena to pop your cooldowns and kill someone because you have 3 minute cd?
Fairly obvious that your pvp experience is coming from duels/random bgs.

"kill a warrior through Second Wind"
GL with that. Again its obvious that your talking about duels/random bgs where the only healing you recieve is your second wind.
Now imagine being in 3v3 where a healer is healing said warrior ontop of his alredy godlike second wind healing ontop of his huge arsenal of control abilities ontop of his huge arsenal of defensive cooldowns. GL

Stop being dumb and making dumb comments about your dumb opinions.

[Tyrannica]

+1

Whomever thought it was a good idea to give them the ability to cast renew / PoM while in shadowform need to be shot. Let alone they can bubble themselves for 50k (or whatever the value is) , root you , have 2 fears,

Actually they got 4 fears.

1. psychic scream
2. psyfiend
3. psychic horror(kinda fear, but horror affect)
4. 4set pvp bonus.

Especially psyfiend really stands out, if you know exactly how it works you can use it with great precision. Welcome to Panda world, where spriest fears more than a lock.

lets not forget spectral guise. the new mini vanish. ;>

oh, and sadly they cannot have tentacles and the psyfiend.....should be fixed.

[Phoenexis]

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114635/ember-tap

spam fel flame. Tradeoff is you won't be able to cast chaos bolt.

Too bad Fel Flame costs about 50k mana. Also, if you're keeping your ember for Ember Tap, then you're basically useless. Because apart from a chain of 2 to 4 Chaos Bolts under burst, Destruction's damage is worth nothing.

[Tyrannica]

Survivability at the expense of not being able to kill anything that's competent at pvp. Hardly a good tradeoff.

he kills easly all melees, very easily dmg is not as low as other tanks and the survivability against meless classifies him as raid boss especially with that crappy pvp gear around currently. I mean there is nothing to do then quit if just 1 melee and a dk survives and mates are dead. He won't lose any hp, cause of the absorb shield and still does heavy dmg just not insane burst. its ridiculous.

[muffinss]

Heals, bubble, sacred shield, word of glory, and lay of hands. Can never go wrong rolling a paladin.

[Wysmark]

Ret Palla

Top surviv/ bottom dps

[Taurenburger]

How come not everyone is saying Ret paladin? Might be me, but afaik this spec can do insane healing if not kited.

[Xo0]

Heals, bubble, sacred shield, word of glory, and lay of hands. Can never go wrong rolling a paladin.

You sir, know what you're talking about.

Let me break it down:
Heals
You mean like word of glory and lay on hands?

Sacred shield
12k every 5 seconds?

word of glory
Which heals for sh1t?

bubble
Low ret dmg gets reduced by 50%, wonderful. Cannot use bubble and lay on hands due to forbearance.

lay of hands
Cannot be used in Arena. Cannot use bubble and lay on hands due to forbearance.

So, what's so imba about all of this?

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How come not everyone is saying Ret paladin? Might be me, but afaik this spec can do insane healing if not kited.

Only people who haven't played one say things like this..

[Vathius]

LOL rets? you must be joking.

2nd wind anyone? but would have to be Blood Dks by a landslide.

Shad priests as well are OP in the survival/dps ratio department.

[ipoststuff]

As ret i think we have decent survival if we focus on surviving. But then we dont have enough damage. Its like not warrior defense which barely reduce dmg output.

[Katsuraxde]

its funny how noone has mentioned boomkin, sure u dont see them alot in arena but id say they got the best survive skill out of all the dps classes atm, not survive combined with damage, but when a boomkin is able to heal without getting poly / hexed etc, only CC so far working on them would be interupt / stun / fear, also they can pretty much heal for free if they use their GoC right and their offheals without that is allready quite strong

lets also not forget the fact they can cyclone and root targets distancing themselves behind pillars and etc very effective with roots vs pure mele like warrior rogue etc, and hunter pets lock pets (imps exception)

[Yvaelle]

Frost mage. The best defense is never being within 40 yards of anyone who isn't permanently CC'd or dead.

Rets are pretty great right now - large instant self-heals are best for reacting incoming damage.

People are saying Shadow but I don't think they really know what Renew and Prayer of Mending really heal for, Renew is 1/4th the HPS of Second Wind - your not having trouble DPSing through it - it's just it's keeping us topped off so you aren't catching us at 50% health anymore. Also in arena we go OOM in like 2-3 minutes if we're healing, so we're pretty easy to outlast right now (and don't have tons of ways to fix that once we're OOM like we used to). I'm not saying our survivability is poor by any means, but I'd trade Renew and ProM in for what any other hybrid has for self-healing right now.

What apparently no one has listed yet is Enhancement and Balance, Enhancement has Glyph of Healing Storm which is as good or better than ret pally burst healing - and they're not nearly as squishy as they used to be last season. Balance has Glyph of Moonbeast which allows Rejuvenation (Renew but stronger), Healing Touch (Flash Heal), and Tranquility to all be cast in Moonkin form - most importantly there is that they get Healing Touch where Shadow doesn't - allowing them to respond better to direct damage - and Moonkins never have mana problems where Shadow does - so not only can they bomb heals without dropping their defenses, but they can do it indefinitely.

The only reason people aren't crying about Enhancement and Balance right now is that nobody plays those specs because they mostly sucked last expansion (a few exemplary players aside), so while you see a lot of spriests who pvp - all the shamans still have resto (or ele for bgs to knock people off cliffs) mindset, and all the druids either went feral years ago or went tree now that tree is back (and possibly the best healer this season).