Dwar ftw ^^
Dwar ftw ^^
People grow up.
WoW hasnt had much fresh blood the last few years interested in raiding, what it has is old players resubbing now and then to check expansion or patches, all those 15-25 year old students raiding from 2005 and onward are either bored of it or moved on with life cause they got older
Out of 50? people or so that i know that played WoW at some point for a LONG period and not just a "Saw it, moved on players" (Net cafe affiliations) only 5-6 are actually raiding, in MoP and maybe other 5 that bought it to check it out..Out of those 6 raiding, 5 are 18-22 years old, aka just entered college years, and one 30 year old, everyone i know that "grew up" as in went past college years and is now 25 + simply cant raid cause they are fed up with WoW really, they can play it to check it out, but they cant dedicate to raids.
At least what i see at the net cafe i go and others i know.
The younger ages are not interested in WoW at all, they are playing LoL 24/7 or generally, only free games its not like back in the day when every 13-25 year old would walk up to you and ask "Whats that?" and the next few days he/she would be playing it, they simply go "Is it free? No" "Oh, okay, back to LoL".
New generation is spoiled from F2P games ;p
Last edited by potis; 2012-11-08 at 04:26 AM.
Also raiding greatly moved to dance model and dexterity "skills" check. People in their 30+ don't have high reaction, which is required on almost each fight in Cata+, but heck, WoW was never about fast reactions and excessive dancing, as it is RPG not some kind of 3D Action/Arcade. But now WoW is catering toward younger generation for more subs (by dumbing down game systems and switching direction from RPG to Arcade combat-wise) and you can see a lot of people under 18 playing WoW currently.
Also raiding in WoW requires very good PCs (thanks to heavily unoptimized gfx changes in Cata, and then MoP doubled it), especially 25-men. And many of younger generation, who would have decent enough PC to raid in WoW without much problems, they would rather play some other, newer games, and they keep criticizing WoW for "outdated" graphics, playing WoW purely social. And we won't see lightweight WoW client any time soon.
Last edited by Ferocity; 2012-11-08 at 05:30 AM.
For me, the guild I was in since TBC, that I did Hyjal, BT, ICC, etc with died in Cataclysm, and now my new guild is struggling to get enough raiders.
I'm not in a real hurry, I only started raiding in TBC a year into the expansion after letting my sub expire early on, and I was still happy with that.
If the numbers the OP posted are accurate and include LFR, I'm fucking stunned by this. I would have guessed it was a lot higher than that. I've been raiding for weeks and I got 2 other toons who are very close to raid ready as well. Then again I've had a shit ton of free time this month but...the numbers still surprise me.
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I will care about raiding when the separate the lockouts.
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Kudos to Blizzard for managing to keep as many long term players engaged imo!
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I have been raiding since TBC, but honestly atm i just don't want to attend a schedule anymore. There's plenty to do outside of raids anyway, and I can do LFR to see the story (which is probably my main interest), I love that.
Last edited by Stannis; 2012-11-08 at 01:21 PM.
Numbers are not far apart for T11 and T14, and you have to count that in T11 in the same amount of time that we passed now there were holidays.
Or for numbers: 3k more raids have killed Magmaw in the same amount of raidweeks than Stoneguard (+ there was 1-2 weeks of holidays in T11)
Oh yeah, and WoW had 2 million more subs back then
Last edited by DieFichte; 2012-11-10 at 12:09 AM.
I'm 31 and I have played at least 6 years and I can't say I've seen any difference in my dexterity/ability to play. My husband, same age, has gotten even better at it with time if anything because he got a Razer Nostromo.
My entire guild is for the most part 25+ and the raiding team consists of three married couples all between 30-36 and we're certainly not doing competitive raiding but it's not for lack of ability. If anything it's for lack of time (we only raid 6 hours a week) as some people have mentioned in the thread...older people having less time to play because of family/work, etc.
I don't know about you guys, but I've been busy enjoying the million other things in Mists.
They don't have pretensions to be world first or anything but they do well enough. As long as you're having fun...
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I'd be interested in LFR, but man i'm running out of time. Playing since early BC, i just have almost no time any more. I stopped raiding 2+ years ago to focus on my career and wife. And now we have a kid, so yeah raiding is out of the picture for me, and LFR would be a once in a blue moon thing. I think alot of Wow players are in the same boat, many of us who played vanilla/BC have grown up and just have no time.
I dont know about other people BUT, im happy with just doing LFR.. i'll eventually become bored of the game again and quit for a few months until a new major content patch is released.
I'm sure others feel this way also.