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    How healthy one has to be to be considered a "human being"?

    This seems like quite an issue everywhere.
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    What does healthy have to do with being human?

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    Healthy as in mental health or emotional or physical ?

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    Nice thread starter. Care to elaborate?

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    Ethically speaking one has to be sapient (capable of thinking and learning) to classify as a human being. So sorry to all the vetegables and foetus' out there.
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    Is this referring to controversy over terminating the brain dead? Like in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case ?
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    What does health have to do with what species you are? A dead human is still a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurous View Post
    What does health have to do with what species you are? A dead human is still a human.
    Human being =/= human. Human is a phylogenetic classification, human being is a philosophical and ethical classification.
    Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Ethically speaking one has to be sapient (capable of thinking and learning) to classify as a human being. So sorry to all the vetegables and foetus' out there.
    You speak as if ethics are objective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Nice thread starter. Care to elaborate?
    Unhealthy people are often seen as non humans.
    Sadistic Serial Killers are seen as monsters, Vegetables are seen as "bodies without soul", disabled are often seen as a burden, The elderly are seen as as used goods...

    so many things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    Unhealthy people are often seen as non humans.
    Sadistic Serial Killers are seen as monsters, Vegetables are seen as "bodies without soul", disabled are often seen as a burden, The elderly are seen as as used goods...

    so many things...
    Wow... the epitome of generalizations... Nothing like marginalizing your fellow "human beings".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Ethically speaking one has to be sapient (capable of thinking and learning) to classify as a human being. So sorry to all the vetegables and foetus' out there.
    hmm, and how do we define this? Do 1 month old babies count? What about heavily brain damaged all the way to braindead comatose people?

    And can't apes think and learn? We can teach them sign language and teach them things, even if they are fairly basic thoughts and concepts.

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    Umm, that still doesn't equate the right way. Health has no determination on being human.

    Regardless of description, if you were born human then you are human. Unless, if we have Dino to Bird evolution egg thing happening. As someone is born drastically different, aka mutants with different traits, X-Men style.

    Being considered, metaphorically, a monster doesn't equate to health. I don't know what your first language is, but I think you might trying to express your thought's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    Unhealthy people are often seen as non humans.
    Sadistic Serial Killers are seen as monsters, Vegetables are seen as "bodies without soul", disabled are often seen as a burden, The elderly are seen as as used goods...

    so many things...
    They're still human, they're just being labeled with a name or phrase that suits their condition or circumstances, not that I agree with it.

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    Looks like we have a new Salandrin.


    OT: humans are inperfect by nature. So even serial killers, coma patients, etc are humans. Being susceptible to those things is what makes us human, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Moon View Post
    Looks like we have a new Salandrin.
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