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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by otyknip View Post
    So, you pritty much say, that Paragon are not a world first, because 10 man is easier (at least last boss) than 25 man?

    So, if someone kill the last boss (let's say in 1-2 months) with 23 players in 25 man mode, they become world firsts?
    Or if a guild do it without using taunts? Without priests and Druids?
    It makes no sense.
    Method, first 25 world, 2nd overall.
    I don't get your way of thinking, I say nothing like that at all, I am just saying that the 10m version of Will of the Emperor Heroic, is way, way easier than the 25m version. Not trying to take away any credit from Paragon.

  2. #42
    Congrats to Paragon for 10man WF.
    And I am happy with getting 25man WF.

    Hopefully we both keep it up for the other 2 raids that are coming in 3 weeks.

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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Theiea View Post
    US still not on EU's level, even with 12-15 hours head start

  5. #45
    Interesting to see how many guilds that will pass Blood Legion before they can get their kill now

    Grats Envy and especially Method on their World 1st 25man!
    "I can understand why gw2 fans are mad, they hyped their game for 2 years.
    Called all other games bad and it still pretty much failed in 2 weeks."

  6. #46
    25 man is all that matters, grats to method!

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    Gratz to Vodka with us 1st 25 man !

    Sig by the amazing Shyama! <Ascension 16/16 H 25man oceanic>

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtails View Post
    Gratz to Vodka with us 1st 25 man !
    was hoping for top3 world, still great job on Vodka!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grevie View Post
    Congratulations to Method on World First 25! The real competition.
    Except it is not "real competition". Grats on the kill, even if they didnt get world first.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sprints View Post
    All i got outta that was

    10 man is easier to manage - obviously

    He wishes it was harder - Who's to say Method doesn't wish the instance was a bit harder? 16 out of top 20 are 25 man, yea 10 is a cake walk.

    In general individual skill plays a bigger difference in 10 man than in 25 man - obviously

    So yea if your going for the 25 is obviously harder then 10 strat with your denial comment it failed.
    Well, the whole argument that 10 man is competitive due to a lack of 10 man guilds being in the top 10 is a bit silly considering that Paragon proved in tier 12 that 10 man guilds may just not have the same level of player skill in their guilds when they took world first 10 man Ragnaros. They should be looked at different levels of achievements because they are difficult in their own ways. 10 man relies more on the individual, while 25 man is considerably harder to organize, yet easier to get good players for due to the raider's consensus on 25 man being the real competitive scene of PvE in WoW.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtails View Post
    Gratz to Vodka with us 1st 25 man !
    Yay Vodka!

    I was hoping they'd do well.

  12. #52
    Funny how there is NO mention of this what so ever on the front page, yet I know for a fact that if Blood Legion would have gotten it first, there would have been a huge post congratulating them.

    At first when Blood Legion was ahead, mmo-champion was tracking the race, now all of sudden Blood Legion lost and mmo-champion loses all interest... Hehe, funny how things work ey?

    Congrats Method for being the first 25man guild to clear it!

    Europe for the fucking win! Shows that we are still better!



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  13. #53
    GZ to Europe and USA that Korean Starcraft servers didn't have maintenance... if u know what i mean
    "Dont gain the world and loose your soul
    wisdom is better than silver and gold"


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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Nehezbegar View Post
    GZ to Europe and USA that Korean Starcraft servers didn't have maintenance... if u know what i mean
    Wish Stars, Kin Raiders would have been able to compete, things would have been so much interesting idd.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by soliddevil View Post
    Funny how there is NO mention of this what so ever on the front page, yet I know for a fact that if Blood Legion would have gotten it first, there would have been a huge post congratulating them.

    At first when Blood Legion was ahead, mmo-champion was tracking the race, now all of sudden Blood Legion lost and mmo-champion loses all interest... Hehe, funny how things work ey?
    I'ts all a bit embarrassing though with days head start and never WF's. Probably don't want to offend American visitors.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Enderox View Post
    I don't get your way of thinking, I say nothing like that at all, I am just saying that the 10m version of Will of the Emperor Heroic, is way, way easier than the 25m version. Not trying to take away any credit from Paragon.
    where u one in method or have u even done 1 heroic in there?, doubt u have seen will of emperor heroic, so shutup about way way easier blablabala shut UP ALREADY

  17. #57
    Too bad that it is slightly tarnished through the realm transfer tactic.

  18. #58
    I feel bad for blood legion They've never got world first and they're always like first or second just before last boss and then on last boss they just can't get it down enough fast.

  19. #59
    Big grats to Method! The race would have been more interesting if Paragon had roster to continue with 25m.
    Also yeah, 10m is easy as Sejta himself said.

  20. #60
    I love how every topic on WF progress ends up in a furious 10vs25man debate
    People don't forgive, they forget. - Rust Cohle

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