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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    Asiatic theme != catering to the Chinese market. If MoP catered to the Chinese market it would have been designed more like Perfect World, which is enormously successful over there.

    If MoP (rife with chop-sockey stereotypes) is catering to the Chinese market, then do you also think Wrath brought in a surge of Norwegian subs?
    Please do not even compare.
    Stylewise mop is the equivalent of bending over, taking Down Your pants and shouting WELCOME IN!! to the Chinese market.
    It might be a good marketing strategy but its bound to get criticised.
    Wotlk had influences (even strong at times) MIXED with a bunch of things that made it LOOK interesting (remember we're discussing style now).
    I'm going through the zones in mop now with my rogue and I have to admit its too much.
    This is like uldum and Indiana jones. It's not an Easter egg anymore it's a 14 kg rock shoveled down your throat.
    The Asian (Chinese) theme is not an "influence" in mop. It's a supporting pillar.
    Last edited by Djalil; 2012-10-13 at 05:31 PM.

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    Why are so many people concerned about the scores?

    If you play, you're enjoying it. If you don't play, you obviously were not. Simple ...

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Lol, Metacritic.
    pretty much this

  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    Atleast its FAR better than Cataclysm, but not as good as TBC and WotLK
    Well if it's a step up in terms of quality for ya, than I'm glad that's the case.

  5. #185
    Nothing you said proves shit once you posted metacritic as a source. Metacritic is garbage. Do yourself a favor and STOP visiting that trash site.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by cherb View Post
    Only ignorant people will decide to play/not play a game based on a review, rather than trying it for themselves. How can you decide if a game is good or not based on someone elses opinion, unless you like being told what to enjoy.
    This response is pretty ignorant.

    I , as a consumer, can watch or read a review as a source of information about the game. Maybe I find out something new that peaks my interest? Maybe I learn about new mechanics that I think are dumbed down or just don't appeal to me. Ect ect.

    You know it is possible to read a review and take away valuable information about a game without letting the authors opinion about it taint how I , as an individual, would enjoy the game. Maybe the reviewer says something like "blah blah is interesting yet it has a steep learning curve with lots of layered mechanics that may turn away new players" , and maybe that is something that peaks my interest. I could go on and on. Reviews of games aren't worthless just because you happen to disagree with the opinion of the author.

    Like it or not Metacritic is an amazing site that is probably the best place to learn about games coming out without having to play them first. Not that it will stop people from posting witty one-liners like "lol metacritic" just because they don't think panda wow is the best thing to ever happen (seems to be the common thought of the people still playing wow).
    Last edited by Lomak; 2012-10-13 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Please do not even compare.
    Stylewise mop is the equivalent of bending over, taking Down Your pants and shouting WELCOME IN!! to the Chinese market.
    Yeah, dude, I totally love franchises that parody the shit out of American culture and portray it as nothing but a land of stereotypes. Did you know that's what got me into Ghost in the Shell, the way they portrayed the American Empire, and it wasn't the series and story itself?

    The reason they picked Pandaria was because it's a scenic, peaceful backdrop to put the faction war into striking relief once the ships hit the shores and we start tearing the place up. Anything beyond that is just people shouting out unsupported misinformation because they don't like the flavor of the launch content's story (which is fine. But don't pretend it's something it's not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    A few months ago I posted a thread asking people to predict review scores for MoP:
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-review-scores

    The results were indisputable, most people predicted MoP would score 90-94%.

    Now look at the score on metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wo...ts-of-pandaria

    It is around 83%. This is the worst score a WoW expansion has ever had, and way below the expectations of what people predicted.

    I'm not trying to start a war of words here, I'm pointed out factual data we now have regarding the quality of the expansion.

    EDIT: We're not talking about the USER SUBMITTED REVIEWS on metacritic here (which can be ignored), we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot.
    Honestly, who gives a flying fuck if they rated it low. Am I supposed to quit now and never look back? It's a shame, just when I thought I was having fun. Ratings dont mean crap, ratings from metacritic even more so, I didnt realize some people need "critics" to decide what games they should play for them.
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  9. #189
    You guys ever stop to think that the reason you get so mad over the most absurd little things is an obvious sign that you have an unhealthy emotional attachment to the game. Why are you cursing and insulting everyone over a simple difference of opinion. It's juvenile.

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    I dunno, dude. I dig me some crackers like you would not believe.

    With that bit of levity out of the way, I honestly don't mind how long leveling's taking (I'm working on my rogue in short stints between leveling a monk). Pandaria quests are story-heavy and, especially in Valley of the Four Winds, going around with Chen and Li Li was a nice break from 'Doom and Gloom, Gloom and Doom! Oh, also, your faction leaders are idiots.'

    As to where they could relax it, maybe allow that rep buff to stack based on how many alts you get to Revered, making the game cumulatively more alt-friendly, and making alternative paths to dailies for rep grinding (like, say, a tough questline that offers rep and rewards you with an item that, while carried, gives you the usual rep gains in dungeons for that faction)?
    This leveling process is way too slow and linear for me to want to do it again. I'm not 'adventuring', I'm walking down a hallway lined with Blizzard's idea of fun tied to a few ball and chains titled 'cooking', 'reputation', 'gear', 'no heirlooms', and 'no flying'. I extremely dislike it when it comes to my alts.

    I highly doubt they'd get rid of rep tabards just to bring back a new form of rep tabards. This is Blizzard we're talking about so I'm not 100% sure but that would be kind of stupid.

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    Can someone explain to me HOW what someone else thinks of a game deters you from playing it if you enjoy it?

    And can the OP explain to me why he isn't listening and posted this thread.
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    it could be the worst expansion in the history of expacs, but i hardly think this is the correct patch to claim "the verdict is in, MoP blows". in my opinion at least, and i think most people share it, the final patch is what truly decides an expansion.
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  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    It was downvoted by expert critics e.g. IGN, eurogamer etc.
    lol, "expert critics"

  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by Destil View Post
    Can someone explain to me HOW what someone else thinks of a game deters you from playing it if you enjoy it?

    And can the OP explain to me why he isn't listening and posted this thread.
    Do I have to explain why people review movies?
    Do I have to explain why people review restaurants?
    How about why people review music? or books? or any other type of entertainment?
    Do you really believe there is nothing of value that people can share with others when talking about things?

    Not everything in a "review" is opinionated. There is plenty of factual information to be gathered, even IF it is riddled with an opinionated author telling you how "he thinks it is".

  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    Yeah, dude, I totally love franchises that parody the shit out of American culture and portray it as nothing but a land of stereotypes. Did you know that's what got me into Ghost in the Shell, the way they portrayed the American Empire, and it wasn't the series and story itself?

    The reason they picked Pandaria was because it's a scenic, peaceful backdrop to put the faction war into striking relief once the ships hit the shores and we start tearing the place up. Anything beyond that is just people shouting out unsupported misinformation because they don't like the flavor of the launch content's story (which is fine. But don't pretend it's something it's not).
    Ah, overexaggerating something to suit your point. Of course.
    Basing your 12 millions subs giant colossal mmo ENTIRELY on a single theme is not called parody. It's called marketing. Also, parodies? The npcs dialogues seem written by the Chinese tourism association. What are you on about.
    Listen, we're all playing mop, and you can think whatever you want. But EVERYTHING, from critters, to mobs, to plants and trees, landscapes, npcs, architecture, stories is HEAVILY based on Chinese folklore.
    Style wise I find it LESS interesting than other expansions. Wotlk was beautiful to look at. Tbc? Style wise a masterpiece it still amazes me when I fly around the place.
    Cataclysm....
    Yeh Cataclysm was shite.


    Also... American Empire?! Since when?

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    Youre a trolling douchebag. Go back to rift!

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    "we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot. "

    Bwhahaha! What more needs to be said?

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    Review of MoP: More of the same with more alongside the main game.
    So if you enjoyed WoW until now, you will enjoy MoP too.

    Borderlands 2 is the same in that regard, it's more of the same with some extra's.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Trollhammer View Post
    "we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot. "

    Bwhahaha! What more needs to be said?
    Obviously nothing since you were so articulate.

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