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  1. #381
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    Who the fuck cares what these people thing?

    Most of those people have hardons for Guild Wars 2 and, if you actually read some of them, fault the game for not being an entirely fucking different game.

    MoP has so much content its ridiculous. And if they even add half of the stuff from 5.1 into the game, I am confident in saying that this is already the best expac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    It was downvoted by expert critics e.g. IGN, eurogamer etc.

    haha almost spilled my cup of coffee from that statement alone
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    Critic reviews are pretty much irrelevant in such a complex game. Do you think that the reviewers did heroic 5-mans, raids, or heroic raids?

    No, they didn't.

    Critic reviews are fucking pointless here.

  4. #384
    I'm enjoying MoP better than cata. your argument is invalid.
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  5. #385
    The OP is so full of fail I cannot even...

    If you want to live your life by what others think of something, that's great. There are plenty of films that have scored billions in the box office that get terrible reviews from movie critics. Who is to say something is bad when so many people are buying the product and seemingly enjoying it?

    I'm not going to base my opinion about this expansion based on what 21 other people think. I think this is the best expansion to date. That is not a fact, just like your 21 critic's opinions are NOT fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    It was downvoted by expert critics e.g. IGN, eurogamer etc.
    You think they have manage to play through as much as the content offered? Leveling, Questing, dailys, farming, heroics runs, raiding? No, NADA , maybe exept leveling for few hours and they sat down to make the review. IGN, Gamespot, you think they have the time needed to really play the ''MoP'' to really judge it fairy? No they dont, which makes me wonder, why the hell making a review then. Its not a singleplayer game which you can run it within 4-5 hours and then siting down to write the review. For me MoP is 9/10, Patch 5.1 + will neat 10/10 of the Lore inc, finally a true action.
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    Hah, metacritic is so awesome what they tell you is 100% facts
    loljk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alba007 View Post
    This has nothing to do about being racist against Chinese. If you load the game from top to bottom with panda bears and Chinese culture around every corner looking at you, it means you are trying to cater to that market. There is nothing wrong with a company trying to cater to a very big market. But everybody does not have to like it.
    No, it means you've decided on an aesthetic baseline to theme the expansion around.

    The claims about trying to market to China at the cost of Western subscribers, or that people don't like it BECAUSE it's Chinese, that's all the racism that we're talking about. And yes, those are racist statements. Mists of Pandaria is not "pandering" to Chinese subscribers. Nor is there any real need to; WoW is reasonably popular there even without doing so. These aesthetics are attractive to Western customers as well, as can be seen from the success of Asian film, Kung Fu movies, animated films like Kung Fu Panda, etc.

    It's just an art style, and the source they're "borrowing" from heavily in the exact same way that they've plundered Norse mythology during WotLK, or Lovecraftian Cthulhu mythos stuff for the Old Gods, or any of the other sources they use. WoW has always borrowed heavily. The lore and the characters make references to other mythologies and real-world stuff constantly, on purpose. In some, it's deliberate satire, in others, it's homage, in still others, it's just meant for a "hey, that's X, neat" effect.

    And this was never an issue, before. Until it was about Chinese mythology/aesthetics. Which is why we're pointing out the racist overtones, which are the only reason to pick THIS expansion as when WoW went off the rails in this regards.

    I apologize in advance for the "pandering" pun. It wasn't deliberate when I was writing it but I'm totally leaving it in.


    What is annoying is this weird effort by some players trying to deny as if pandas have nothing to do with China and Chinese culture is not all around this expansion, as if the fact that there were Norse gods in a previous expansion somehow makes it so that the existence of overwhelming Chinese theme in this expansion somehow actually non-existent. Totally weird reaction.
    We're not trying to deny it. The conversation is going like this;

    "It's all based on Chinese mythology and aesthetics! OMGwharrgarble!"
    "Yeah. So?"
    "But CHINA!"
    "You said that. So what?"
    "They're just trying to make money!"
    "They're a corporation. That's what they do. The same as they've always done. Why is this an issue NOW, when it's no different than before?"
    "CHINA!"
    "Right."

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    Oh wow, OP is actually serious.

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    Metacritic.. I'm sorry who are they?

    Really I don't tend take heed of just few self opinionated reviews from some narrow minded pigeons
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    >verdict is in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sackman View Post
    Everyone saying metacritic is not factual lol...

    It is the best source for an average review from multiple companies, that are allowed into the system after reviewing my administrators.

    Each and every review comes from a professional gaming journalist, from a gaming review/journal/magazine.

    It is the best place to get a consensual aggregate.

    And I would say its pretty accurate, looking at all time scores for most games, Metacritic is probably the best review tool out there.

    Here's an idea though. Judge it yourself from the amount of enjoyment YOU get out of it. Not by the sheep following what critics say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Who the fuck cares what these people thing?

    Most of those people have hardons for Guild Wars 2 and, if you actually read some of them, fault the game for not being an entirely fucking different game.

    MoP has so much content its ridiculous. And if they even add half of the stuff from 5.1 into the game, I am confident in saying that this is already the best expac.
    What you mean like how all the wow fanboys faulted gw2 for not having raids.....bet you were one of them too.

  14. #394
    Here's how you decide if MoP is good:

    Play it.

    End of thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Metacritic.. I'm sorry who are they?

    Really I don't tend take heed of just few self opinionated reviews from some narrow minded pigeons
    Metacritic is distilling many critics' voices into the single Metascore, a weighted average of the most respected critics writing reviews online and in print.

    Metacritic's mission is to help consumers make an informed decision about how to spend their time and money on entertainment. We believe that multiple opinions are better than one, user voices can be as important as critics, and opinions must be scored to be easy to use.


    That's who they are...
    So much for "few self opinionated reviews from narrow minded pigeons", it's actually quite the opposite.

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    Did anyone who posted in this thread, including the OP, read the reviews? Or did you just look at the score?

    Every. Single. Review. Is. Positive.

    Not only that, but a number of them specifically label this the best expansion to date, beautiful, remarkable scores, terrific voice overs, a masterpiece, ect... How did we get to the conclusion that this is the worst expansion ever from the number 87, which is actually quite high for an expansion of a 9 year old game...
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    You let others decide for you? Good for you I guess, good luck with that.

    I have a mind of my own though, and so far this expansion has given me more in less than a month than Cata did in a year.

  18. #398
    This expansion is very good in my opinion overall, but the heavy amount of dailies and rep grinding are really deterring me from logging in. That's just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    A few months ago I posted a thread asking people to predict review scores for MoP:
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-review-scores

    The results were indisputable, most people predicted MoP would score 90-94%.

    Now look at the score on metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wo...ts-of-pandaria

    It is around 83%. This is the worst score a WoW expansion has ever had, and way below the expectations of what people predicted.

    I'm not trying to start a war of words here, I'm pointed out factual data we now have regarding the quality of the expansion.

    EDIT: We're not talking about the USER SUBMITTED REVIEWS on metacritic here (which can be ignored), we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot.
    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    A few months ago I posted a thread asking people to predict review scores for MoP:
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-review-scores

    The results were indisputable, most people predicted MoP would score 90-94%.

    Now look at the score on metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wo...ts-of-pandaria
    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    Now look at the score on metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wo...ts-of-pandaria
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    metacritic
    Quote Originally Posted by thekrik View Post
    metacritic

    I kind of stopped right about there. Metacritic is a horrendous site to base your opinion on, aside from their cherry-picking official reviews, the Metacritic userbase contains more Trolls than all of Orgrimmar.

  20. #400
    Always those threads, that want to tell you this expansion is the worst one just to gain some attention. I call those TEs attentionseekers.

    MoP hasn't yet proved itself in the test of time. We haven't fully expierenced MoP. It just got released. Tons of stuff will still be added, some raids are locked. the conflict between alliance and horde is not even present yet.

    Its like reviewing 1/3 of an expansion with possible bias vs pandas. The class overhowl was a good idea and worked. Its not perfect for every class though. Good example is warlock. he is really fun now, especially demology. You can't possible deny this. The spec looks super boring in pre mist patch in comparission to post patch.

    The asia theme is a great one too and brings new stuff, granted that wow is good in copy paste stuffs that existed before, though. wow now reminds me more of my favorite rpg "suikoden" and my favorite movie "A Chinese Ghost Story" - something i consider very good. Cause a lot is possible from now on, asia myth offers a lot of interesting creatures to slay, most people have no clue of.
    I think a quest zone just about beer, cooking and farming is too amazing to describe with words and a change too from the usual grind of some undead or cults. if you get a feel for it you will be rewarded.
    Some in the chats in this zone they wished wow would be as dark as prior expansion. The chinese monster and ghost lore is very dark and interesting to explore. Hopefully the devs will implement more of it. Shouldn't be all reduced to Shas and Alliance vs Horde, though.

    Anyways, i think after a year or two one can really say how good that expansion was in comparission to the other expansions. Stating this now its the worst, is just plain stupid and makes me yawn. i rather see people that get tired and quit wow for that very reason.

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