Verdict finally in: MoP is substantially worse than previous expansions

[alba007]

Again, so?

I'm still waiting for someone to give me any reason why this is in any way a "bad thing". All the expansions have clear themes. This happens to be this one's. Why does WoW have to remain culturally "pure" to Western mythologies and concepts? Why is this an issue in the first place? That's what I don't get. It's a fantasy setting that draws heavily from real world influences. Why is China a forbidden source of concepts?

It is not necessarily a bad thing. I actually said in my original post that there was nothing wrong with Blizzard catering to a very big market. Some people will like it and some won't.
All of a sudden there was this attack from this poster named LuminousAether. Apparently, I hit a nerve when I dared to say Blizzard was catering to the Chinese market, and he's been accusing me of being racist for that. lol I guess everybody must be panda fans or else they are racists.
So, I was trying to explain, probably in vain, my point to him.

[fizzbob]

years ago, there was an article about how companies pay people to downrate their competitors games, the #1 site for this was metacritic. the ratings of 1, 4, 7, etc are those people

[MitchMeister-]

I don't understand what the complaints are about with Blizzard incorporating our historical mythologies in their world. And by OUR I meant us as in the human race. Almost anything that is created as a fictional world uses some sort of basis off of either historical myths or previously invented ideas. Both Wotlk and MoP are based off of existing human myths/cultures which tend to strike a nerve with people *good or bad* because of our familiarities with them. I love both expansions. I stopped playing Cata right as firelands came out. Just didnt peak my interest. Came back to try MoP and so far am loving it. It's beautifully done, the visuals, music, characters, all of it. Yes it's the same thing we've been doing for the past 5 years, but so far it's up there with my favorite expansions.

[Honeyprime]

I'm enjoying the expansion. That's the only review that matters to me.

[LuminousAether]

The fact of the matter is Wrath had Lich King (not Norse), who has nothing to do with Norse kings, as the main element, whereas panda expansion has pandas which are China's native panda bears as the whole world knows, and Pandaria, which is basically the Chinatown of WoW. Blizzard can have whatever they wish in the game, but everybody does not have to like it.

The fact that you are basically saying in your post that "Vikings had kings so Lich King may be Norse" makes me think you cannot be older than 12. It's an incredibly pathetic logic, actually it's not even logic.
Norse had kings =/= all kings, including the Lich King, are Norse. Jeez, I cannot believe I had to explain that...

Wow, I broke him. Anyone able to parse this for me? It's like he didn't even read my post.

[Littleraven]

EDIT: We're not talking about the USER SUBMITTED REVIEWS on metacritic here (which can be ignored), we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot.

this statement is SO ass backwards it hurts. video game critics are such BS nowadays its not even funny. id rather hear a review form someone who PLAYS the game for more than 15 mins than someone who picks it up just to review it. i have NEVER listened to "professional" reviews simply because nowadays most of those people could care less about 99% of video games and will give out perfect scores to games like call of duty and halo just because of brand name.

[Keristrasza]

God forbid that what the world outside of your basement thinks and says may deserve 5 seconds of consideration.

Lol says the person sitting on a gaming forum doing nothing more than being rude. That "World" outside holds no weight nor merit on someones desires and personal ideals. I don't know about you but just because a critic calls a movie a PoS and gives it 2 thumbs down won't change the fact that if I like it that is all that matters. This goes for games, and anything else in life. My beliefs > Critics and I am quiet sure there are MANY people who prefer their OWN ratings over some idiot sucking down cheese burgers getting PAID to give bad reviews for a living.

[Reah]

I'm not trying to start a war of words here, I'm pointed out factual data we now have regarding the quality of the expansion.

Professional reviews are still an opinion there is nothing factual about them. The only difference between a review by IGN, Gamespy, Gamespot or any other pro review and someone going on a forum and giving their review of the same product is a paycheck

[MaxJr]

People get so defensive when you touch this subject, i guess fanboys will never accept that the game is not as good as it used to be, WoW is still a great game the best MMO out there, but it is not nowhere near as good as it was back TBC or Ulduar and ICC in Wotlk and so the ratings are lower. No need to get all defensive about it just accept the reality its still a good game just not like it was before.

[Vampurity]

I bet you've had this typed out for a while and you were just giving the xpac a few weeks before you posted it.

[Dald]

People get so defensive when you touch this subject, i guess fanboys will never accept that the game is not as good as it used to be, WoW is still a great game the best MMO out there, but it is not nowhere near as good as it was back TBC or Ulduar and ICC in Wotlk and so the ratings are lower. No need to get all defensive about just accept the reality its still a good game just not like it was before.

Yea, just accept this guys opinion as fact.

[Xl House lX]

No doubt about it, WoW is still on the decline. I like MoP and everything so far but its just old now. People from the days of BC and Vanilla are just finally burning out on it. Thats my 5 second thought out opinion on it anyways.

[rol3x]

I am enjoying myself alot and I honestly didnt think I would. The only thing I really don't like is the daily farm prerequisite to spend jp/vp. I prefer jp and vp to be completely separate from rep so there are 2 options for filling gear gaps as you progress.

[shocktrooprx]

I'm enjoying the expansion. That's the only review that matters to me.

didnt bother reading any of this silly post. this i can imagine is the smartest thing said in this waste of a thread. oh and LOL @ listening to critics. are you enjoying the expansion thus far? yes> be happy. no> quit

[Endus]

It is not necessarily a bad thing. I actually said in my original post that there was nothing wrong with Blizzard catering to a very big market. Some people will like it and some won't.
All of a sudden there was this attack from this poster named LuminousAether. Apparently, I hit a nerve when I dared to say Blizzard was catering to the Chinese market, and he's been accusing me of being racist for that. lol I guess everybody must be panda fans or else they are racists.
So, I was trying to explain, probably in vain, my point to him.

It's not "catering to the Chinese market" any more than WotLK was "catering to the Norwegian market". There's plenty about these kinds of aesthetics that are appealing to Western markets, and Chinese players have been playing WoW plenty without such "catering".

It's not going to make MoP more appealing to Chinese players. Nor will it, overall, make it any less appealing to Western players. Some individuals in either culture? Probably. But that's a personal preference thing, not some major cultural impetus like you're describing.

[Ianus]

i piss on critics opinion

[RaoBurning]

Aw, welp. I thought I was having fun but I guess this expansion is pretty bad. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

No shit, right? Here I've been having a blast going through less linear but cohesive storylines, leveling my Monk, and pet battling. I'm so happy to have the flaws of my ways pointed out. Now I can begin to sulk and whine like I'm supposed to.

[Wakwazu]

I loved this expansion until I found out someone else didn't like it!

That's how the world works amirite?

[Durandro]

It's not "catering to the Chinese market" any more than WotLK was "catering to the Norwegian market". There's plenty about these kinds of aesthetics that are appealing to Western markets, and Chinese players have been playing WoW plenty without such "catering".

It's not going to make MoP more appealing to Chinese players. Nor will it, overall, make it any less appealing to Western players. Some individuals in either culture? Probably. But that's a personal preference thing, not some major cultural impetus like you're describing.

Indeed. Same way that Tauren aren't catering to the American Indian market (though I can't imagine how big that is!) and Dwarves aren't catering to the Scottish market and Worgen aren't catering to the UK market. People just love to bring up China because they have an issue with the country, or want to imply bad things about Blizzard.

Its silly, honestly. People demanded Pandaren since Burning Crusade, and Blizzard finally release them and base an expansion around them to please the fanbase, and then people complain about it. Seriously, what the hell. Unpleasable fanbases are the worst.

[Nadev]

I really don't give a fuck what any of these people have to say. I just hit 88 and I'm loving it. Can't wait to start raiding.

Really, the only complaint I have so far is how noisy the Sha of Anger is. I hear his jabbering from halfway across the zone.