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  1. #621
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pulch View Post
    Destil talking about hardcore vs casuals? I raided with this kid in wotlk in the Guild "Black Rose Syndicate" and it was hilarious. They had zero progression and one 25m kill of PP was considered an accomplishment to them. Destil was considered the floor buffer and was verbally abused by the guild master on every pull. My warlock outperformed him on every fight and once it was so noticeable that a argument got started. It ended with Destil in tears (yes literally crying in vent, ive got the mp3) screaming "im the class leader in my guild you all have to listen to me". Hands down the funniest experience in my wow history, its something my friends and I will laugh about for years to come. Destil's friends went on to tell me that his home life isn't that great and that he gets heavily bullied in school. That made his behavior somewhat understandable and I apologized for mentioning his dps and even offered to help him.

    So, why mention all of these immensely personal things about Destil? To bring me to my point. This game is 1000% subjective and everyone plays the game differently. Its ok to talk about personal opinions on the game but in the end they will always be only that, opinions.


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  2. #622
    Stupid thread.

  3. #623
    My response to the OP is ahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha and have you played mop yet? I'm yet to hear anyone with any credibility rate it poorly, most these posts are made by people who have quit wow so have no credibility!

  4. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by nameuser View Post
    LOL at everyone making up excuses. MoP got lower ratings, get over it. It sold less copies, get over it.
    Seriously this.
    If you think pandas are like the second coming of Jesus or the new wonder of the world and you love it sooo much then just go play it. Why is this frantic effort to justify MoP receiving lower ratings and selling less ?? The numbers are what they are, your excuses will not change them.

    And metacritic was the same metacritic when it was giving previous expansions much higher ratings.

    Vanilla:
    Metascore 93, Player score 7.1

    The Burning Crusade:
    Metascore 91, Player score 7.1

    Wrath of the Lich King:
    Metascore 91, Player score 6.7

    Cataclysm:
    Metascore 91, Player score 5.1

    Mists of Pandaria:
    Metascore 83, Player score 4.4


    If it was OK then, it is OK now too.
    Last edited by bigbadworgen; 2012-10-14 at 07:38 PM.

  5. #625
    Metacritic has never been OK and, as people have repeatedly pointed out, the numbers are irrelevant if you're enjoying the expansion.

  6. #626
    The verdict is in. Less than 3 weeks after launch. A whopping 21 reviews. Some of them from online organizations I wouldn't trust with a rubber band. With a user score system that has become notorious for abuse by horribly immature idiots. Instead of actually reading the reviews we're going to focus on useless numbers. Because surely these numbers are of a divine nature. I should truly enjoy Forza Motorsport more than Mists of Pandaria because its score is higher. Perhaps I should now struggle between playing The Old Republic again or sticking with something that is far more enjoyable to me. Surely I should overlook the fact that these reviews for each organization are very often done by a different person.

    Look, the only thing Metacritic is showing at this point is that the critical reception of Mists of Pandaria's launch has not been as well received by "professional reviewers" as other expansions in the past for various reasons. If to you that automatically means Mists of Pandaria is the worst expansion yet then I will say that you have no capacity to think for yourself and I wish you removed from society because people like you are a hazard. Cataclysm CLEARLY showed us that an expansion is more than just its launch. That its post-launch content can make or break the expansion. I think that if anything you could say at this point "the verdict is in for Cataclysm". For the most part it deserved the reviews it got at launch. After launch... well... those reviews should have been rewritten to reflect its later failures. You won't see those, though. So everyone will look at Cataclysm's average score and believe that's how good it was. Now, with Mists of Pandaria, everyone may look at the current scores and think that's all it will ever be when they could give us so much quality post-launch content that people will argue that the reviews should be rewritten to reflect that this expansion improved over time.

    MMO reviews should be treated as nothing more than a general guidepost as to whether or not its launch was good. Especially considering that we're talking about an addition to a game that has, in the past, been consistently rated the top MMO. Even if it could be said that the current score is 100% factual to the idea that Mists of Pandaria is the worst expansion to date does that mean that the entirety of WoW is now also that bad? Was Mists of Pandaria's launch 'in the green'? According to Metacritic it is if you're still focused on scores. Considering that I already love WoW as do millions of other people, that's good enough for us. Don't worry. Once MoP is over I'm sure we'll go back to the super serious, Western focused WoW and you can lay down your 'Kung Fu Panda' pitchforks and instead of complaining about China and monochromatic ursine martial artists you can start complaining about why Blizzard gave much of the Emerald Dream a green coloration when clearly the lore says it should look no different than the natural world.

  7. #627
    It's not clear what use Metacritic's numbers are. Does it accurately predict success of a game? No (look at SWTOR, for example). Does it dictate how one should enjoy a game? No.

    At best, it might let you spot real stinkers. But in general it's going to be hopelessly compromised.
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozez View Post
    hahaha, reading the user reviews is a joke, basically people are pissed and it has gotten loads of 0's which is hardly fair considering no game ever created deserves a 0.

    Hydlide is a pretty good candidate for a 0/10

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    MoP is already WAY better than cataclysm, which was apparently rated a 90...? Honestly, it should have been more around the 70ish area. MoP is great and I don't honestly care what a website that I've never even heard of before says.

  10. #630
    The low reviews for MoP are probably also thanks to the anti-hype that surrounds it.
    Cataclysm had some serious criticism over the last year.
    and the main features of MoP, Panda's Monks and Pet battles suffer from ridicule and comparison to Kung-fu panda and Pokémon.

    It's just cool to hate wow atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbadworgen View Post
    Seriously this.
    If you think pandas are like the second coming of Jesus or the new wonder of the world and you love it sooo much then just go play it. Why is this frantic effort to justify MoP receiving lower ratings and selling less ?? The numbers are what they are, your excuses will not change them.

    And metacritic was the same metacritic when it was giving previous expansions much higher ratings.

    Vanilla:
    Metascore 93, Player score 7.1

    The Burning Crusade:
    Metascore 91, Player score 7.1

    Wrath of the Lich King:
    Metascore 91, Player score 6.7

    Cataclysm:
    Metascore 91, Player score 5.1

    Mists of Pandaria:
    Metascore 83, Player score 4.4


    If it was OK then, it is OK now too.
    And you don't think everyone's giving it a lower score just because at the cover all they see is quote on quote "Kung Fu Panda"?

    Cuz it was like that the second Mists was announced.

  12. #632
    Wait so these are like just random people who play? I mean what verdict? Getting a lil tired of seeing titles of this type. "Verdict in", "It's official", blah blah.. If I wanted to know what others thought of a game we played, wouldn't I just ask them in game? Cause let's face it, these are random reviews from random people who play, each person if different, some will like it, some won't, simple as that.

    I don't need others to tell me what I should think about something. That goes for OFFICIAL and non-official, or randoms.

    It doesn't matter if others like a game that you play, as long as you like it (assuming you do since playing).. If not, then quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fest View Post
    Yes, it does make an impact. It so obviously makes an impact. Most of the people I see all over the internet are not playing WoW anymore because the engine is so outdated. If you can't see this then I don't know what to tell you.....
    That makes zero sense. So even if they like playing the game, people stop just because the engine is outdated? Ok.
    They have some serious first world problems, then.

    I agree that the graphics could be better, but Blizzard chose a particular style and stuck with it. I'm not quitting the game just because the graphics are different than newer games. That's ridiculous.

  14. #634
    How the fuck cares about "this" and "that" and what "someone" gave it. The final verdict just is that pandas and asian design etc. are less appealing to western players, end of discussion.

  15. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarim View Post
    Metacritic is not perfect, but it is the best out there.
    Hahaha. Polish a turd, it's still a turd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horseface
    The final verdict just is that pandas and asian design etc. are less appealing to western players, end of discussion.
    More opinions as facts.

  16. #636
    Verdict just in this post is far worse than previous ones lol grow up dude there is no way to rate the xpac til the end of the expac anyone with half a brain knows you actually have to play the content all it means is cata was more hyped and considering the flop of cata ppl are more cautious with MoP and rightly so to say the verdict is in after 3 weeks is utterly absurd and useless.

  17. #637
    Quote Originally Posted by ngc2440 View Post


    More opinions as facts.
    It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
    Last edited by Horseface; 2012-10-14 at 09:03 PM.

  18. #638
    we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot.

    way to riddicule your entire post.

    IGN respected ? they give the best reviews to the companies that pay the most.

    Its the players that play the game on regular basis you need to listen to. Not some fifa playing nobjockey

  19. #639
    The fact that metacritic gave cata a 91 shows that they are reviewing solely based of the first couple weeks of the game. Cata was super hyped and awesome looking when it was released, then fell apart and became arguably the worst expansion yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Wait, people are leaving MoP already?
    If they don't sort PvP soon, yes.
    Nothing worth having comes easy. That's why hard content is worth doing, and easy content is a waste of time.

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