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[rowaasr13]

I love how dee-pee-ass whine that they feel their e-peen is feeling shrunk by tanks's presence and want tank to be that unmentionable guy in the corner who's only delight in the fight is seeing boss axe in his face. Yeah, go ahead, make tank damage insignificant in raid, dungeons and solo as well. See as people drop tanking because it becomes much less fun. And then see 1 hour queues. Good plan.

[MacHaggis]

I love how dee-pee-ass whine that they feel their e-peen is feeling shrunk by tanks's presence and want tank to be that unmentionable guy in the corner who's only delight in the fight is seeing boss axe in his face. Yeah, go ahead, make tank damage insignificant in raid, dungeons and solo as well. See as people drop tanking because it becomes much less fun. And then see 1 hour queues. Good plan.

A tank's job is tanking. If he can do some decent dps as well, that's a nice bonus, but he is NOT supposed to vastly outdamage a pure DPS class, because that makes the whole class thing bloody weird.
To give an example: You are a new player. You get to choose:
- a rogue: pure dps, is pretty decent at what he does
- a monk: AWESOME dps, about double of what the rogue is doing. And Great tanking! And healing! We'll let you screw rogues by allowing you to roll on their stuff too!
- a death knight: you also do twice as much dps as that silly rogue class, WHILE you are tanking.


Seeing how the blue poster completely avoided that last question (why did he even bother to respond?) one really starts to think if Blizzard might be planning to get rid of the rogue class altogether and force a change to monk instead. Hybrid classes are currently way better at what they do than the "pure" classes, so likely they just want to get rid of the latter by the time the next expansion hits.

[rowaasr13]

Let me remind you that you only need 1 tank and only that one who's getting hit in the face will experience this DPS increase. And, you honestly telling me that more people choosing tank class and spec is bad thing? Last time I've checked, despite DK uber-solo dating back to LK and tanks generally able to see raids and doing many other feats alone, despite increased damage through all Cataclysm, people are still looking for tank for raid for hours in trade on high-pop servers. How it is bad to increase fun factor, all while letting tank contribute to team more? (Also let me remind you, you're one team in the raid, voting for some of your member become less significant sound completely and utterly selfish). I'm pretty sure this is all vocal minority raising their voices once again. For the note, I'm mostly playing damager and my desire to play my tank once in a while greatly increased thanks to this.

---------- Post added 2012-10-15 at 11:28 AM ----------

Oh, and just noticed last block about rogues. Sorry, but complaining about rogues after T13 is not simply selfish, it is an insult to pretty much everyone else.

[MacHaggis]

There is classing for a reason. You might have noticed there aren't that many rogues running around at the moment (and this trend started in cata, why do you think they introduced the legendary daggers together with the DS patch?).
I'll repeat again: They have taken away all incentive for picking a pure dps class by making the HYBRID classes better at dps than that pure class.
If that hybrid specs for dps and does awesome dps, I can still live with that, it's part of Blizzard's "bring the player, not the class" mantra and completely aligns with what you are saying. However we are seeing people in TANKING SPEC doing about double dps of what the pure dps class is doing. THAT is what sets rogues off.

[ZenX]

Hmmm, new model, a book, I feel that Vol'jin has many chances to be the Blizzard choice for the new Warchief of the Horde...

They has new orc models (Garrosh, Thrall), New Night Elf models (Malfurion, Tyrande), New High/Blood Elf models (Nozdormu), and now new Troll models (Vol'jin and the Zandalari), what they are waiting to update the playable race models?

Nozdormu model is a High Elf skin customized for Nozdormu on a Night Elf Skeleton, it is not a new model and Blood Elves/Draenei are at the end of the list for getting newer skins.

---------- Post added 2012-10-15 at 08:10 AM ----------

A tank's job is tanking. If he can do some decent dps as well, that's a nice bonus, but he is NOT supposed to vastly outdamage a pure DPS class, because that makes the whole class thing bloody weird.
To give an example: You are a new player. You get to choose:
- a rogue: pure dps, is pretty decent at what he does
- a monk: AWESOME dps, about double of what the rogue is doing. And Great tanking! And healing! We'll let you screw rogues by allowing you to roll on their stuff too!
- a death knight: you also do twice as much dps as that silly rogue class, WHILE you are tanking.


Seeing how the blue poster completely avoided that last question (why did he even bother to respond?) one really starts to think if Blizzard might be planning to get rid of the rogue class altogether and force a change to monk instead. Hybrid classes are currently way better at what they do than the "pure" classes, so likely they just want to get rid of the latter by the time the next expansion hits.

Right now WW is closer to Frost Mages while Rogues have a higher dps than them in high-end gear.

[fishface]

Updating Zandalari but not Darkspear models even though Zandalar's were implemented in WOTLK. GG Blizz.

[Thundermoose]

They NEED to change the Rogue playstyle, all this passive damage is remnant of fucking old game design and is so horrible.

"393 k chaos bolt crit in Arathi basin and I have 55 % dmg reduction
Chaos Bolt always crits and requires considerable build up time."

Oh yeah, that makes it entirely okay.

[Ater]

Ret is fine, you probably are not if you're only doing competitive damage as that of a healer. Blizzard have the numbers to back up their claim.

Right now, if you take the top 100 dps logs from each class from World of Logs, 10-man normal (to few logs from heroic right now) and then calculate the median value for each class you get this result:

1. Warlock - 73742 dps
2. Priest - 69296 dps
3. Mage - 69011 dps
4. Hunter - 65505 dps
5. DK - 65036 dps
6. Druid - 64296 dps
7. Shaman - 63956 dps
8. Warrior - 63651 dps
9. Rogue - 63144 dps
10. Paladin - 62738 dps
11. Monk - 59850 dps

Ofc we don't know what effect gearscaling will have in the next couple of weeks but right now it looks like Warlocks, Priest and Mages could need a nerf and Monks, Paladins and Rogues could use a buff.

[AnarchyEU]

I am so fucking tired of ghostcrawler and his bullshit, so what CB needs build up time, I thought they were supposed to be moving away from massive burst in PvP especially something that 1 shots another player.

---------- Post added 2012-10-15 at 11:28 AM ----------

"Rogues are fine In PvE"

if you mean fucking boring then yeah they are fine, energy starved and ridiculous passive damage, yeah that's fine, not.
I'd rather reroll now and play something a little more interactive in PvE

Why don't you just make all our damage passive so I can go AFK ?

Eat crow , look how many players DISAGREE with you.

[Die Hard]

A tank's job is tanking. If he can do some decent dps as well, that's a nice bonus, but he is NOT supposed to vastly outdamage a pure DPS class, because that makes the whole class thing bloody weird.
To give an example: You are a new player. You get to choose:
- a rogue: pure dps, is pretty decent at what he does
- a monk: AWESOME dps, about double of what the rogue is doing. And Great tanking! And healing! We'll let you screw rogues by allowing you to roll on their stuff too!
- a death knight: you also do twice as much dps as that silly rogue class, WHILE you are tanking.


Seeing how the blue poster completely avoided that last question (why did he even bother to respond?) one really starts to think if Blizzard might be planning to get rid of the rogue class altogether and force a change to monk instead. Hybrid classes are currently way better at what they do than the "pure" classes, so likely they just want to get rid of the latter by the time the next expansion hits.

You got this right, i got to admit my main is hunter atm and my(hunter dps in general) dps is in pretty bad shape, however back in 2005 my first char was rogue (also my first and probably only love still) and i made like 3 other rogues since, its painful to see the rogue in my guild getting benched because of his dps, he is a good player and everything but you need that boss down and rogue dps is just pathetic and the dk tank is above him, on stone guards its not even funny how much dps dk tanks have.

[gutnbrg]

Right now, if you take the top 100 dps logs from each class from World of Logs, 10-man normal (to few logs from heroic right now) and then calculate the median value for each class you get this result:

1. Warlock - 73742 dps
2. Priest - 69296 dps
3. Mage - 69011 dps
4. Hunter - 65505 dps
5. DK - 65036 dps
6. Druid - 64296 dps
7. Shaman - 63956 dps
8. Warrior - 63651 dps
9. Rogue - 63144 dps
10. Paladin - 62738 dps
11. Monk - 59850 dps

Ofc we don't know what effect gearscaling will have in the next couple of weeks but right now it looks like Warlocks, Priest and Mages could need a nerf and Monks, Paladins and Rogues could use a buff.

or leave warlocks, priests and mages the fck alone and buff rogues pallies and monks.....not everything always has to come down to nerfs....holy shit people annoy me.

[Stormgnoef]

Updating Zandalari but not Darkspear models even though Zandalar's were implemented in WOTLK. GG Blizz.

Zandalari in wotlk wat?I guess i didnt do zul'aman in tbc at all?

[rowaasr13]

Updating Zandalari but not Darkspear models even though Zandalar's were implemented in WOTLK. GG Blizz.

Zandalari Tribe from Classic wants to have a word with you.

---------- Post added 2012-10-15 at 02:55 PM ----------

Zandalari in wotlk wat?I guess i didnt do zul'aman in tbc at all?

That's Amani. Zandalari is those guys on island with rewards from Zul'Gurub.

[Elrandir]

The people in those blue tweets really know how to exaggerate, jesus christ, I'm glad blizzard knows how to respond to these crybabies.

[Sindrasa]

Jaina seems to quite the hypocrit...saying the kirin tor is better without the horde and then saying she feels dalaran is a heaven for neutral co-operation...i've always seen her as a hypocrit, witch is why i dislike her so much, i really hope she ends up a raid boss along with kalec (He's pretty much the next of knakk's characters to get killed off, first krasus, then rohnin, now kalec).

[Binki]

Yay, trolls are getting new exciting stuff. For da voodoo!

About time. Trolls are second best race (after gnomes) in WoW, they deserve more recognition.

[ExtremeActionTess]

The Horde exists because the Orcs partied with demon blood and came into Azeroth. Hell, that's even why the Alliance exists.

I think he refers to the current Horde, with the Blood Elves joining because they were trashed by the alliance and the goblins joining because the alliance were fighting them for the sake of securing their cargo

[spartie85]

It seems like Blizzard uses Trolls way too much in adding content. BC we got troll raids added, WOTLK we got ZulDrak (from launch, but still a frustrating zone), Cata we got rehashed Troll dungeons, and now that MoP is out we get... surprise surprise, MORE TROLLS!!

Trolls were all over Azeroth since they were an empire.... and many tribes are still there. Plus, (i think) Vol'jin is one of the favourites horde leaders for many people.

[Sargerus]

Vol'jin is getting:

-An updated model
-A novel
-A scenario

Vol'jin will be the new Warchief, Haters gonna hate

[Domiku]

God damn why bring Pico back why? I seen the thumbnail of video and was like yay she still not back! I was thinking to myself well another video from cursed that wont be awkward to watch... Then it comes as i click on the vid.. PICO she is back.. As soon as i seen the Ginger hoe i turned the vid off right away. Her awkwardness makes me cringe (I am sure I'm not the only one here)

Why just why.. Damn you cursed just sack her i don't care who she is sucking off to keep the job fire them also if you have to.