It HAS to be Rexxar....
unless it's Thrall....
It HAS to be Rexxar....
unless it's Thrall....
My point is your parsing evidence and filling in unsaid blanks in an area in which is you are right there is no reason to leave anything unsaid. If Thrall was returning, then they would have just said Thrall is coming back. There would be no need to figure out what they mean in the context in which they mean it.
Besides Grocalis's link pretty much seals the deal on your "evidence".
I might be forgetting that, but i had in my head that he decided to leave the armor in Mulgore.
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No, thats only a partial evidence.
Another evidence is the fact that its the only one that makes sense.
We come from a guy we didnt knew how he weas going to rule turning into a tyrant, any society where that happens WILL refuge themselves in a leader they trust and know exactly how he is going to lead, because they cant risk to have another leader that turns out to be a tyrant again.
The only horde member that the whole Horde knows how he elads and that his leadership is a fair one is Thrall.
And no, if he ways Thrall is coming back, he would be interpreted like Thrall coming back to the horde but not as warchief. When he says You wil have your Warchief back, he is saying that Thrall not only will come back, but he will come back AS WARCHIEF.
That's why he uses the word Warchief.
And again, Zarhym is a community manager, he has no say in the lore and its just trying to leave some suspense.
Last edited by Crashdummy; 2012-10-15 at 03:35 PM.
Vol'Jin isn't a great leader. He will always be the Robin to the Batman. He probably is going to help dethrone Garrosh, though. But he won't be taking the throne. I'm guessing Lor'Themar would obviously be a good guess since it's mentioned in the new audio-leak, that he would be a good Warchief. Also, he's got the balls to tame the wild beast that is The Horde, while Vol'Jin probably wouldn't even mind if The Horde disbanded.
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=10429
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=43189
Hello! Theres two Warchiefs that aren't "of the Horde".
And like i said, the Vp of Creative Development hinted TWO TIMES ALREADY that Thrall will be. Your claim of us knowing that Thrall wont be has no basis whatsoever.
You look like the people that for months claimed that this expansion wasnt going to be about pandas, even when Blizzard had copyrighted the name mists of Pandaria.
Last edited by Crashdummy; 2012-10-15 at 03:44 PM.
You forgot one.
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=16808
"Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."
you dont think theres even the slightest bit of a chance that metzen was doing the exact same thing zahrym was? trying to build suspense in getting people to believe that thrall was going to become warchief again?
you can easily interpret what metzen says as two different things. yes its possible that he's coming back as warchief or its possible hes coming back as a badass to whoop garrosh. i take metzens twitter comment of "thunder is coming" as more of a "thralls fury is rising" type deal, not a concrete statement proving that he's going to be warchief again
The first hint was already discredited, you have simply chosen to ignore it. The second hint is nothing. Bringing the Thunder has no meaning what so ever, it could mean any number of things.
Zarhym is a blue poster, when he posts he is acting as representative of the company. He can't just post anything he wants whenever he wants. So when he says Thrall is not going to be it, and does not remove the post or have it corrected it means he was speaking for the company and yes that includes whatever VP of creative development may have said at some point.
You can denigrate what what a post from Zarhym means because you really don't like what he said, but it does not change that fact that it still is an official post on the subject and that the company simply by leaving it there supports it.
If you actually knew anything about Metzen, the only thing he actually ever abides by is the "Rule of Cool", he very well may bring back Thrall, but he also might just be attempting to make us think it was Thrall because he wants it to be more interesting when the actual event happens. He has played the bait and switch before.
Even then, he is notorious for not knowing everything about the story, which lead to gaffs like the Eredar/Draenei debacle or when the Red Shirt Guy pointed out he had already broken the establishment of Falstad on the Council of Three Hammers that was shown in The Shattering. It was one of the rare times he went back on something because a fan pointed out he totally spaced on it.
Here's a thought. What if they were slowly changing things around between Horde/alliance. While the horde was once under a single warchief, they become more of a council of racial leaders deciding. Meanwhile, the alliance has slowly morphed so that now they are following their High King. It's an interesting dynamic that plays well into the story.
I don't really see them going so far as to form a complete council government. The "Warchief" is too iconic to remove. More then likely whoever does take the mantle will be like Thrall was, diplomatic and taking into consideration the other races in the faction, rather then Garrosh, who just says "I own you" and makes them do whatever he pleases.
This is one of the reasons Vol'jin would make a good one. His ideals are very close to Thrall.
As for Thrall, I do see him coming back, but in the same way Malfurion returned to the Night Elves. He will act like an adviser and help guide the new Warchief a bit more hands-on to make sure it does not become another Garrosh situation, but will not officially join in such a capacity that he is at war with the Alliance again on a personal level.
What if we don't get a new warchief but a war council with representation of all members of the horde?
The context of the first time he said it, coupled with him loving Thrall as Warchief, being the one that made the lore since W3 up to today coupled with being the only one that makes sense because of the reasons i explained before, i think the chances of Thrall not being Warchief again are very, very low.
Didn't thrall have a son or something? That could easily be the next war-chief.
No one discredited the first quote. And you dont even know the context of thunder is coing. Someone was asking by tweet if Thrall would return, and he said of course, thunder is coming.
Time will tell, but all real hint as well as the lore indicates that Thrall will be coming back. he is already leaving his snooze stance in the 5.1 patch, as we see in this very thread, and returning to the Horde politics, there would luiterally make no sense to put another one in charge. Everyone in the horde respects Thrall and his leadership, and we just get out of a tyrants hands.
I hate these "Calling it now" post, its not like your the first to say this, people have been posting this since cata. Plus i doubt it will be anyone that isn't an orc, im sure Vol'jin will have a big part in the Finale but he is no where near being warchief, its a fact that they have to replace Garrosh as the leader of the orcs. They just do the orcs have to have a Leader, and whoever this is will be the Warchief even if they do decide to lose the title or even if they give the title away to say Vol'jin, he won't be standing in the throne room of Orgimmar any time soon and no one will think of him as they're real leader.
"I hated hating Garrosh before it was cool."
FOR THE HORDE!!!