I sure am enjoying this garbage.
I sure am enjoying this garbage.
My team of pets, which can all be captured in the world, just wipe the floor with store pets. There are some capturable pets out there who are head and shoulders much more powerful and versatile than the store pets are.
Oh, and a few outliers I'm sure.
BTW that yeti is just of green quality so bringing it to 25 aint an I-WIN-Button
I´m with you OP. BTW, dont get mad, even if you have some points it still sounds like QQ, maybe a thing of the used tone, not sure here.
1. That pandaren Monk is really HARD OP, cant help it. It´s not that i didnt find ways to get even him down but still it´s damage potential is just way to huge while having such a big health pool and kinda no downside to those damage abilities.
For example the elementiumgeode can hit as hard as the pandaren monk, but it looses half of his life or even more to such an attack.
2. There are other pets (non store pets) as well that tend to be semi-op, but well thats how it should be, we dont want every pet to be equally strong.
3. What OP was refering when talking about level, is PVP-petbattles. You dont know whom you will fight like when fighting a level 4 cockroach in tirisfal.
4. There are still lots of massive bugs, that i am not used to for blizzard games.
For example i love my "Schinderjunges". It has a skill called "relection", which actually blocks the attack from the enemy, and does the blocked attack to him. When i fight a flying pet that can go to hover mode before attacking next round i can bug out the whole battle.
If i relect his actual attack, when he comes down from hovering in the air, all is fine and like expected. But if i happen to relect one round sooner, the i relect the going to hover mode. Enemy is down again after his attack while my pet will stay in hovermode for the entire fight, beeing unattackable.
Oh and btw--- you need to look like this on PB.
Pandern monk can be easy countered by http://www.wowhead.com/npc=61375 wich has http://www.wowhead.com/petability=764 and strong anti-humanid attacks. (yes i use it)
There are a few points i need too make:
Store pets are overpowered---- well not true. You can find some pets that have the same attacks: http://www.wowhead.com/petability=330 = http://www.wowhead.com/petability=828 (well dont rly want to check for all store pets with smiliar ability but you can look here http://www.wowhead.com/petabilities )
They can be countered by any tameable in wild pet. You just need to find a right 1.
Second--- pets will get balanced over time (but we dont know if blizzard store new added pets will be op or not).
3rd rng is a must---i laughed hard in some pvp battle when some guy missed a 600 damage attack-- i killed him with 2 hp left.
But i seriosly hate trainer BP. It seems that if trainer pets are epic quality your miss chance is much higher.
Its probaly programmed like this (tinfoil hat):
Green battle pet-- miss chance 5 %
Blue battle pet-- miss chance 10%
Epic battle pet-- miss chance 15%
Poor battle pet -- hit chance increased by 5%
White batle pet -- 0%
How do i know that? Well back in the days i was *cheating* on pokemon emulator to set all my pets too have 100% chance to hit-- you needed some special program.
even with mechanical yeti, aquatics and celestial dragons i can`t make it past cataclysm tamers.
All maxed out, plus other mix of pets
It is due to the quality
Hence why they are introducing the stones i´m sure..as it stands now only pet store pets stand a chance
Personally I enjoy pet battles to pass time, granted I just got started but I had no expectations going into it other than to pass time.
Considering it doesn't reward anything, I think having a little RNG involved is good, and if you have to spend some cash to get a good pet, then so be it.
My counter was http://www.wowhead.com/spell=90523#comments against stormlash, http://www.wowhead.com/spell=97638 against Chirrup and http://www.wowhead.com/npc=62627 against Whiskers (lvl 23). I managed to survive with 1 pet left (yeah lvl 23 one).
Rocket bot- Blue
Just thing you need to remember is too set anti-setup against enemy team and keep reseting battle till you get your pet you like a good counter (AI will always try to waste 1 of your turn-- wich is of cose much needed).
I love how most of the complaints here (Matchmaking, pet strength etc.) are on things Blizz have already stated that they're working on fixes for. Have you considered checking out the pretty blue text on MMO-Champ's front page? Did you ever consider that right now Blizz are rolling out hotfixes like crazy, and that MAYBE one of their selling points this x-pac (Pet Battles) are on the priority list?
Yeah, we see QQ because that is what you show us.
Did it take time and a litle bit of shuffling about of spells, yup! Did I have to now and again move in a pet that was perhaps 5 levels lower than the tamer, but needed to use it up just for the double damage? yup!
It is all possible, and none of my pets used were from the Blizz store.
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Onyxia whelp (anniversary one) Lava Crab (rare) captured in burning steppes or somewhere, Sporeling (rare) captured in Zangar marsh. my team, and completed all tamers.
I failed many times, but i just kept trying, switching spells about, using another pet that was as close to their hp as possible that the tamers pet was vulnerable to, even if i just used that one lowbie pet to get the tamers pet to half health it gave me the chance to get past that pet and win.
patience and trying.
I know what you mean by "beta." I've always thought it was a bit ugly and shaky, like how a pet can charge at your pet, and now the battle is taking place outside the arena area, and sometimes the animations lag or miss or... well, it just doesn't look super polished. I also don't like that rare quality pets are better than grays. They should have no quality types, every ones equal man! But seriously, you can't just catch a pet and expect it to live up to someone who found a blue out of pure luck.
It's pronounced "Dur-av-ian."
Can't say much about PVP battles, but trainers felt too easy or i was very lucky with my pet combination (used same 3 pets from around lvl 12), rare Tree Python (same as any other Snake), Crimson Whelpling (think it has same skills as onyxia whelpling) and rare Nether Faerie Dragon. Between Dragonblight and Dread Wastes I had 1 or 2 wipe(s) with lvl 25 pets. I also beated last trainer in pandaria with 2 tries, while i was expecting to level some new pets for every battle in pandaria to counter their pets.
Don't have any pet store pets so cannot really say if they are op, tho seen Lil' ragna when visiting friend and it did sure look like powerfull, not sure if id say op (and I allready looked for aquatic and critter pets to counter it if I ever duel him).
Some amount of RNG is good, its same for both teams anyways. But sure it isn't fun to miss 3 times in row to something that is slowly healing, still hasn't ruined it for me, quess that is cause i don't take it too seriously.
This is RPS
This is pet battles.
Although, I do entirely agree that pet store pets should not be significantly stronger than in game pets. Pet battles may be a minigame, but it's part of the in game content, and if pet store pets are stronger than in game pets, then that means pet battles are pay to win which is literally something blizzard said they would never do, something tons of players said they would quit over, and something horrible and shameful. No, people who buy pet store pets should not get an advantage over in game pets because they decided to pay 10 bucks for an edge. That's a bad thing. Pet store pets can be strong, they can be unique, but they shouldn't be stronger than say a unique, hard to get in game pet. The pets you get for pet collection achievements, the pets you got for logging in during anniversaries, onyxia whelpling, pets from other achievements, and pets you had a small window of time to get - these should all be on the same level if not better than a pet that took you 3 minutes and some money to get.
Everything else is little more than a gripe because you don't feel the system works the way that you want it to. You know that your own pet can dodge attacks too, right? I'm sure you've won once or twice because of that, but I'm sure you don't remember it. Without some level of RNG, then you would have absolutely zero chance when your well compositioned team still managed to get put up against a team where you had zero advantages. It would be cut and dry with 100% accurately calculable odds.
I've not once fought significantly higher level pets if all of the pets I entered with were the same level. Maybe that is unique to me, but if you're going in with even one pet one level lower than your other two, try making them the same level.
I spent three hours yesterday just training and capturing pets and challenging master trainers. The battles work just fine.
The sheer fact that we have people being so asinine as to split hairs over the exact definition of content is a sign that there isn't any worth discussing for non-raiders.
Are the store pets really overpowered compared to other pets? What about in comparison to other rare pets? I got the impression that the rare quality pets were supposed to be a little tougher, which would include those purchased online.
(Genuine question. My highest level pet is level 3, and it's the one the pet pane automatically selected for me -- that should give you an idea of how much I've tried the pet battles -- so I really don't know.)
If it's true, that's a legitimate complaint (and pretty sucky), but if we're talking about battling our vendor pet against them, maybe that is the issue. Try it with a rare pet, a rare drop or capture, and see if there is still that disparity.
It totally makes sense if [rare] pets end up being stronger than [common] ones, so I'm curious if the complaint is mostly due to that and not because the store-bought pets are actually indisputably superior.
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If it is so that store bought pets are stronger, then clearly they need to change that. As they keep saying nothing from their store is supposed to give you an in-game advantage. Perhaps not game breaking, but an advantage nonetheless.
Personally I got some pets to 13 or something, then got bored.