Windsong and Elemental Force Enchantments Information

[greyghost]

I have no idea what's going on. Can anyone translate this to casualish?

They made some enchants work better. In the case they might not, make sure to tell Blizzard.

[Deleted]

Elemental Force has 10 Real PPM? Let me calculate that for a 5 seconde interval of procs with 22% haste:
10(ppm) * 1,22(haste) * 5(time since last chance) / 60 (sec per min) = 101,67%
You proc all the time, how is this system better?

You're assuming you do 1 attack every 5 seconds.

Auto attack on a typical 2H weapon (3.6 seconds):
10(ppm) * 1.22(haste) * 3.6 (time since last chance) / 60 (sec per min) = 73.2%

Assuming cast time of 2.5s:
10(ppm) * 1.22(haste) * 2.5 (time since last chance) / 60 (sec per min) = 50.83%

While this may still seem high, it only does an average of 3k damage per proc.

[Deleted]

Guess i'm still going to keep my heartsong.

[Kcaz64]

You're assuming you do 1 attack every 5 seconds.

Auto attack on a typical 2H weapon (3.6 seconds):
10(ppm) * 1.22(haste) * 3.6 (time since last chance) / 60 (sec per min) = 73.2%

Assuming cast time of 2.5s:
10(ppm) * 1.22(haste) * 2.5 (time since last chance) / 60 (sec per min) = 50.83%

While this may still seem high, it only does an average of 3k damage per proc.

Even this is wrong... You're only going off auto attacks and not special attacks / dots.

[Abysal]

Even this is wrong... You're only going off auto attacks and not special attacks / dots.

Realistically, for most classes, your "last chance to proc" is never going to be higher than a GCD except during movement. Classes with DoTs/HoTs will have even more frequent "last chance to proc"s.

So:

10*1.22*1.5/60=30.5%

But that's only counting GCDs of 1.5 and ignoring auto-attacks.

Then look at a DW Frost DK:
20 Blood Plague and 20 Frost Fever ticks per minute.
~23 White attacks per weapon (2.6 speed)
60 GCDs= 123 chances per minute or 1 proc chance every 0.48s on average.

So 10*1.22*0.48/60=9.76% proc chance per weapon enchant (this is actually wrong because a frost DK would never have that low of haste).

Anyway, that works out to 12 procs per minute.

Flip that to a movement heavy fight where you only attack once every 5 seconds with no DoTs.

10*1.22*5/60=1.01666 =12 procs per minute.

This is true genius by Blizzard. These enchants will have roughly equal value in every situation with a large boost in haste heavy situations.

Also makes it really easy to theorycraft the value of Elemental force. It's simply 10*Highest attack speed modifier*3000/60=DPS gain. In my DK example, it'd be 10*1.22*3000/60=610 DPS.

[toktokeh]

"useful enchant for all classes and specs"
/looks down at his lord blastington's scope, looks up quizzically.

Someone better do some therorycrafting on this. Windsong has a 24-second uptime whereas Blastington has a 10-second uptime per minute

[Hand Banana]

Anyone else think 2 ppm is BS for windsong? My war has had all 3 up at once multiple times in a min, there is generally always 1, often 2, different procs up at once. And its it seriously broken for certain things like a lock casting rejuv for symbosis. My lock friend tried 50 straight casts of rejuv and it procced 100% of the time.

Edit: This is in pvp, with 1 2hander.

[Deleted]

Even this is wrong... You're only going off auto attacks and not special attacks / dots.

The Maths in that isn't wrong, I even stated that it would be for auto attacks + the cast time of a typical filler spell for DPS casters. The math was meant to be simple and not definitive, only to show that the enchant would not proc all the time.