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    How is frost performing (PvE)?

    I'm trying to get some solid information on how frost is performing as I am debating between warrior and DK. However, I find it to be sort of difficult.

    Simcraft has 2h Frost (and to a lesser extent, DW Frost) in a pretty good spot: http://simulationcraft.org/505/Raid_T14N.html
    but how does it perform in reality?

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    I'd suggest you to trust http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/ instead of simcraft

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    Frost is perfectly fine, just like warriors are. They are balanced close enough to make sure the class you enjoy more / play better will also do more dps. Besides, you should pick whichever you prefer anyways, that few % of dmg shouldnt matter if you play something you enjoy less. And which you enjoy more is entirely up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alestia View Post
    I'd suggest you to trust http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/ instead of simcraft
    Frost doesn't seem to be doing too hot based on that (pun not intended.. lol).

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    FYI - WoL,raidbots, etc... don't have heroic/normal parsing worked out.
    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_Scor...14/60/default/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie View Post
    Frost doesn't seem to be doing too hot based on that (pun not intended.. lol).

    I believe the correct link for now is this: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_Scor...default/#7vvvv

    I did not see news about heroic raids happening. I may be wrong.

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    Those certainly look a lot better. I had actually seen the first raidbots link before but thought it was odd since feral druids (which people kept mentioning in the "best dps?" thread) were at the very bottom. From those links it seems Frost is slightly better than Fury atm. Still undecided, but I figured that if I were to switch from warrior to DK I wouldn't want to switch to a far lower performing specc/class. Thanks for digging up somewhat reliable information.

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    They are really strong, both on AOE and single target. They also offer far more utility in MSV than most melee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie View Post
    Those certainly look a lot better. I had actually seen the first raidbots link before but thought it was odd since feral druids (which people kept mentioning in the "best dps?" thread) were at the very bottom. From those links it seems Frost is slightly better than Fury atm. Still undecided, but I figured that if I were to switch from warrior to DK I wouldn't want to switch to a far lower performing specc/class. Thanks for digging up somewhat reliable information.
    By the time you swapped and geared the new character it is likely a balancing pass would have occurred and the grass won't look as green from the other side.

    It is a terrible idea to switch mains based purely on what is currently performing better. Play what you find the most entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarssen View Post
    By the time you swapped and geared the new character it is likely a balancing pass would have occurred and the grass won't look as green from the other side.

    It is a terrible idea to switch mains based purely on what is currently performing better. Play what you find the most entertaining.
    ...and that's not what I'm doing, either. The reason I'm considering switching to DK has to do with the gameplay and utility - I just wanted to know that it wasn't a gimped specc like that incorrect raidbots link made it seem like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie View Post
    I just wanted to know that it wasn't a gimped specc like that incorrect raidbots link made it seem like.
    Frost is good right now.

    The damage is above average, utility is great when you get to actually use it.

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    Easily the most versatile melee class, warriors are stronger on single target but they really only shine during execute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie View Post
    [..] I just wanted to know that it wasn't a gimped specc like that incorrect raidbots link made it seem like.
    Why do you keep calling it "incorrect raidbots link"? On the right side there is a menu where you should choose your desired raid size/difficulty and go through all the bosses individually... People are so lazy nowadays.
    Last edited by Alestia; 2012-10-17 at 08:04 AM.

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