Last edited by scuac; 2012-10-18 at 06:07 AM.
For the debate for wich Bomb to take in Frost, I red on Icyveins that it has been calculated that Living bomb procs slightly higher ffb than any other bomb, and when tried I must admit I average out two ffb per LB, sometimes more (and obviously, sometimes less). Plus, lb is instant cast and no cd, I prefer it.
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Toriankel from <New Hope>, Ysondre, EU. 3rd realm, 862 world. First mage 100 (Ysondre) in 11.5 hours. Currently 681 ilvl, progressing on M Imperator.
I have the same question but for fire.
Is this trinket really as bad as mr robot ranks it?
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[Vision of the Predator]
Light of the cosmos (LFR)
What would you use? Feels like light and vision should be the best ones.
The DoT effect was actually removed from Fireball at the launch of Cataclsym, that's not a new thing. Then once Ignite was changed to apply to all Fire spells in MoP the tiny DoT on Fireball became totally obsolete (not that it wasn't before), it was always more for flavour than any actually large part of your damage especially as it was refreshed so much.
The Frostfire DoT was removed at the same time. As the spell was always meant to be "Fireball and Frostbolt at the same time" it would be a bit weird to have a periodic effect not present on either root spell.
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I definitely prefer Frost Bomb for Frost (as I said earlier in the topic) and it feels like the fact that it does not set off DoT effect procs is a bit of an oversight rather than intentional design, but this is purely a playstyle issue.
The fact that it has so much raw haste makes it an excellent trinket for Frost and using Living Bomb/Nether Tempest does not add up to a loss of DPS. It is definitely a DPS boost to use this trinket and swap bomb if you own it rather than stick with the rather limited trinket choice we have until next week when Heart of Fear opens.
It is not a DPS loss and certainly not unviable for Frost.
I don't think it even applies an AOE Aura to the opponent so I think it fairly unlikely, though I don't have the trinket or any other DoT proc trinkets to check for sure.
Edit: I just looked at their trinket weight list for mages (linked to fire), and saw the LotC isn't listed, perhaps a related issue?
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-Scuac - you're right, we have a bug with Light of the Cosmos. Anyway, we didn't account for the proc. You can see a list of our trinket and enchant procs for Frost Mages here, along with the proc assumptions we use. The value we assign each trinket is the value of the proc itself, by simulating the proc rates in a fight to get the average uptime of the proc'd stat.
Light of the Cosmos is not on this list, which means we didn't account for the proc. I'll be adding that in today.
Rhandric - we do account for talents and glyphs. We also account for racials, profession bonuses, socket bonuses and anything else you can think of. If we don't account for something it's a bug (which we definitely want to know about!)
PS: Thanks for posting on our forums scuac - it's guaranteed we know about a problem then. Otherwise, I rely on luck to stumble across threads like this
Zooper: Good to know. I was just making some logical assumptions based on what the users can see; I take it you use the talents we load with, but don't (currently) give us the option of changing them to see how they effect gear?
On a side note, LotC isn't listed in the trinket and procs page for mages...and a quick perusal of other caster specs seems like it's not listed at all. I assume that's an oversight?