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Well, Tanks no longer gain vengeance from attacks from Qiang. They 'gain' it, but it doesn't actually effect them.
This means tanks are doing drastically less DPS, literally 10% of the original dps our tanks were doing.
It also means drastically less active mitigation, my shield barrier for example now absorbs a pitiful amount of damage, whereas before it could get up to 400k+
EDIT: It's not just Spirit Kings.
Official confirmation from Ghostcrawler - across the board vengeance nerf.
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...40133961555968
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2012-10-20, 09:55 AM #1Epic!
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Heroic Spirit Kings - Stealth (buff?)
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Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas
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2012-10-20, 09:57 AM #2The Patient
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this was hotfixed on Thursday night. (US)
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2012-10-20, 09:58 AM #3Epic!
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It was working for us last night Originally Posted by lukerocks
Raxxykins Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas
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2012-10-20, 10:01 AM #4Mechagnome
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New Zealand and the United States have considerably different ranges of time zones and, therefore, qualifications of Thursday as it might appear on the calendar. Originally Posted by Raxxed
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2012-10-20, 10:03 AM #5High Overlord
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In NZ last night was Friday meaning tonight is Saturday which would be Friday in US meaning after Thursday.
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2012-10-20, 10:08 AM #6High Overlord
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Every encounter in MSV got buffed due to this.
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2012-10-20, 10:11 AM #7Epic!
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Can you elaborate? Originally Posted by Sakurako
Are tanks no longer benefiting from vengeance?
---------- Post added 2012-10-20 at 10:54 AM ----------
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...40133961555968
Well, that just about confirms itRaxxykins Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas
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2012-10-20, 11:03 AM #8Deleted
lolwut, are they insane?
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2012-10-20, 11:11 AM #9Deleted
Lol, what's the point of fixing it now..? They had a whole two weeks to fix it before heroic modes opened?
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2012-10-20, 11:28 AM #10DeletedI can't think of anything but to screw people still on progress... Originally Posted by Funkthepunk
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2012-10-20, 12:45 PM #11Deleted
Did galleon at around 6 GMT today on EU servers and my DPS seemed to be pretty much the same, may not have hit EU yet
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2012-10-20, 12:47 PM #12Dreadlord
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yeah, had a nice 16% enrage wipe yesterday on 4kings. To bad tanks did ~120k less dps
Last edited by Makarena; 2012-10-20 at 12:52 PM.
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2012-10-20, 01:05 PM #13Deleted
Could just be a case of baldy dribbling again as usual though
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2012-10-20, 01:08 PM #14Field Marshal
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So guys, we have to push much more dps on ALL bosses in MGV to compensate for lower tank damage? Originally Posted by Makarena
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2012-10-20, 01:10 PM #15Old God
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Being EU I've not experienced this yet (that and I haven't raided in a few days), what exactly have they changed?
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2012-10-20, 01:15 PM #16The Lightbringer
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Did people replying to this thread even read it? This is about Spirit Kings, specifically tanks standing in Annihilate, which does 2.5m damage if you stand in it. Tanks could pop a bunch of defensive CDs to survive standing in it and gain 2.5m damage worth of vengeance. This was causing tanks to get so much vengeance that they make up 30% of the raid's DPS. Galleon has nothing to do with this. Originally Posted by eddytheone
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2012-10-20, 01:30 PM #17Epic!
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It's not just spirit kings now. Originally Posted by Glurp
It's every raid boss (US)
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...40133961555968Raxxykins Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas
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2012-10-20, 01:36 PM #18Old God
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They should just nerf encounters HP by whatever the tanks are doing and then make Vengeance a scaling threat buff. >.>
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2012-10-20, 01:39 PM #19The Lightbringer
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"Fixed an issue with the way that Vengeance is calculated that could cause very large but infrequent spikes of damage to grant much more than the intended amount of Vengeance." Originally Posted by Raxxed
To me it sounds like this only effects things like Annihilate or sitting down to get crit by the boss.
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2012-10-20, 01:49 PM #20Pandaren Monk
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so garajal and spirit kings heroic enrage timers are going to be even more tight than before?
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