Time to upgrade, how does it look?

[Deleted]

2x Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 4GB KIT, CL9, Kit w/two matched DDR3 2GB, 240pin
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9

Intel® Core i5-3550 Processor Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.3Ghz, 6MB, Boxed w/fan
Intel® Core i5-3570 Processor Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.4Ghz, 6MB, Boxed w/fan

MSI B75MA-P45, Socket-1155 m-ATX, B75, DDR3, 1xG3-PCIe-x16, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, VGA, DVI, UEFI
MSI Z77A-G41, Socket-1155 ATX, Z77, DDR3, 1xG3+1xG2-PCIe-x16, CFX, SATA6Gb/s, USB3.0, VGA, DVI, HDMI, UEFI

Samsung SSD 830 Series 128GB 2.5" OEM SATA 6Gb/s (SATA3.0) 520MB/320MB/s read/write, Basic Kit

Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0, DVI-I, DVI-D, native-HDMI, DisplayPort, 860MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB PhysX CUDA PCI-Express 3.0, "Twin Frozr III", GDDR5, DVI-D+DVI-I, native-HDMI, DisplayPort

Western Digital® Desktop Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s, (SATA 3.0), RPM = IntelliPower, 64MB, 3.5"

http://www.komplett.se/k/shoplist.as...B-61E3A1AC2263

Took a sample build that this site had (that included case, CD drive and some other periphals i didn't need) and scaled it down together with doubling the RAM + better storage setup.
So how does it look?

I know these items will fit me performance wise, i'm more wondering about opinions about the specific products, like how does the GFX perform? Noise level of the HD's? Will the items "work" together or is there something missing (like wrong connectors somewhere)? Or is there a better alternative for what i have chosen?
Anything potentially negative would be great to know, but from what i can tell it seems like solid products!

[Xoura]

First I beleve we all need a few questions answerd to give you the best help we can.
1. How much are you willing to pay (SEK./EURO)
2. What are you going to use the system for?
3. Do you have a PSU, and what PSU if I may ask?

If you can answer this I am sure we can help you better.

But lets first see what you got there. I myself would go for a Nvidia GTX 660 ti grafics card and faster + at least 8 GB ram (it is rare for me at least to use any less then 5 GB ram with windows 7).
When it comes to the noice level on the HDD it shuld not be that high seeing as you most likely will have you OS on the SSD.

[Peldorain]

You might want to look into more/higher clockrate RAM. 4Gbs of the stuff is /barely/ scraping by most programs minimum requirements for Windows 7/Vista.

Although I can't read Swedish, I did poke around and found http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=618010 which "seems" to be the same price as what you have with a higher clockrate, and double the memory amount. Pardon if I am mistaken though.

[Xoura]

You might want to look into more/higher clockrate RAM. 4Gbs of the stuff is /barely/ scraping by most programs minimum requirements for Windows 7/Vista.

Although I can't read Swedish, I did poke around and found http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=618010 which "seems" to be the same price as what you have with a higher clockrate, and double the memory amount. Pardon if I am mistaken though.

This ram is what I was thinking of myself. It is faster and cheeper then what you had alredy choosen. It is also what most forums will choose for you if you ask for cheep and good ram.

[Deleted]

First I beleve we all need a few questions answerd to give you the best help we can.
1. How much are you willing to pay (SEK./EURO)
2. What are you going to use the system for?
3. Do you have a PSU, and what PSU if I may ask?

If you can answer this I am sure we can help you better.

But lets first see what you got there. I myself would go for a Nvidia GTX 660 ti grafics card and faster + at least 8 GB ram (it is rare for me at least to use any less then 5 GB ram with windows 7).

1) I was planning for 5000 SEK (roughly 600 EUR), this landed a little above so i guess i can stretch to 6000 SEK since i do have a voucher for 1000 SEK at this store that i won earlier this year.
2) It will be gaming, mostly WOW and Diablo at the moment, and running a movie or TV through my TV stick on the second monitor is also something i would like to be doing while still running the games at high(est) settings. Or running both of the games at their own monitor. This obviously means that the GFX won't need to be top notch as the games (to my knowledge) aren't as demanding compared to many newer games. Tried putting money in the CPU/RAM instead as that seemed more reasonable. I would like to run the game(s) with high FPS for once.
3) I have a PSU, namely Corsair CX V2 430W, its about 1 year old now and i was hoping i could use that still.

The GFX i choose is mostly because i've always been using the Sapphire Radeons and just decided to stick with it again since i never had a problem with it, so i took one that seemed alright. Not to sure where i would gain the most performance for my needs, if it's better GFX or CPU+RAM.
I had put 8GB RAM, 2x of those 4GB kits but i don't think that was clear enough, my bad!

You might want to look into more/higher clockrate RAM. 4Gbs of the stuff is /barely/ scraping by most programs minimum requirements for Windows 7/Vista.

Although I can't read Swedish, I did poke around and found http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=618010 which "seems" to be the same price as what you have with a higher clockrate, and double the memory amount. Pardon if I am mistaken though.

Good point, seems like a much better RAM solution there. I had picked 2x4GB though, it probably wasn't clear enough sorry.
Edit: Removed the 2x http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=363359 and added your suggestion to the list.

[Xoura]

http://www.komplett.se/k/cart.aspx?m...ListId=1144773
Did a check on how much watt you need for this hardware. And I suggest you get a new PSU as well when you are out getting new hardware.
This is a list of what I would buy myself if I had your budget to go on. It is 160SEK above your limit, but you can go back down to the CPU you choose and a lower motherboard (stay with Z77 chipset) if you realy can not go above 6 000.

I also choose to use an Nvidia GPU because I got better experience with Nvidia then ATI cards. Also, the Nvidia driver is a lot better then the one ATI gives you. This Nvidia gtx 660 is a little bit better then the Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 and costs about the same.

EDIT: Ups, forgot your 2TB HDD, hope that is ok? :P

[Deleted]

I do want a new HDD, apart from the SSD!
Sucks that i seem to need a new PSU as well then, doesn't leave much choice anymore then if you want to cram it below 6k.

Your link above didn't lead anywhere for me btw, it's fine linking from another source if you want

Edit: I checked at http://www.corsair.com/psufinder/ and with i5, HD 7800 series and 2 HD's it had the 430W on the list so where did you check the watt usage?

[Xoura]

http://www.komplett.se/k/shoplist.as...C-536B1C63216A
This link shuld work.
NOTE: Like I am saing below, you can remove the PSU, it shuld be ok.

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I do want a new HDD, apart from the SSD!
Sucks that i seem to need a new PSU as well then, doesn't leave much choice anymore then if you want to cram it below 6k.

Your link above didn't lead anywhere for me btw, it's fine linking from another source if you want

Edit: I checked at http://www.corsair.com/psufinder/ and with i5, HD 7800 series and 2 HD's it had the 430W on the list so where did you check the watt usage?

I checkd the same place. I just assumed you had a hard drive in your current computer you would use. And in any case 430W is probebly going to work, but you are straining it constantly and it leaves less room for more uppgrades.

But when I think a little about it. You can also keep the PSU you have now untill it dies out and then buy a 600W+ PSU and leave room for SLI uppgrade and more hard drives if you want that later (and then dont have to buy another PSU until that one dies)

[Deleted]

At the moment i have 3 hard drives in my PC, some (very) old ones with 160, 240 and 320 GB and i'd just like to slim it down (space and sound wise). One is even connected with a IDE to SATA converter so you can guess the age on that one
Having the OS and games on the SSD and rest of the storage on one drive would be my prefered setup, a 1 TB drive is probably enough but i would just like to get a new one either way. So having 1 SSD and 1 HDD of some size is what i want.

The link still doesn't work though, just leads me to an empty cart!

[Xoura]

One is even connected with a IDE to SATA converter so you can guess the age on that one

Hehe it is realy old. I can understand why you want a new hard drive.

The link still doesn't work though, just leads me to an empty cart!

DAMIT!!
Ohh well, I might as well link them one by one then.

RAM: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=618010
CPU: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=748722
SSD: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=750724
HDD: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=653071
GPU: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=760680
Motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=765860

Going for a 1TB HDD will cut the cost by 300-400 SEK I think. But a 2TB HDD is more GB/money then a 1TB HDD. If it is worth the price diffrence to you.

[Deleted]

The CPU difference seemed really small, but then again it wasn't such a big price difference.

The GPU and MB is where ours differ the most.
GPU comparison: http://www.komplett.se/k/kcp.aspx?sku=760680&sku=760515
MB comparison: http://www.komplett.se/k/kcp.aspx?sku=765860&sku=749862

The GPU i can see where you are comming from, jumping from 1 GB to 2 GB. But what is it the CPU and MB you chose improves over the ones i posted originally?
I'm just curious because i don't doubt that what you choose is better, i'd just want to know what you believe the difference is.

[Xoura]

The GPU i can see where you are comming from, jumping from 1 GB to 2 GB. But what is it the CPU and MB you chose improves over the ones i posted originally?
I'm just curious because i don't doubt that what you choose is better, i'd just want to know what you believe the difference is.

http://www.techterms.com/definition/vram
This shuld explain a lot about V-ram for you.
About the motherboard. I can ask on another forum to see what they say about B75 cheepset on ivy bridge.
The CPU you choose i did out of habbit. And the motherboard I beleve I heard somewere that Z77 is the best chipset for ivy bridge (asking on another forum about this now)

[Deleted]

Updated the list again, still is a reasonable price i suppose, just above the budget but hopefully you get what you pay for!
I'll be awaiting the verdict regarding the Z77 to, because i guess this setup can change depending on that.

[Xoura]

About the CPU. You can go back to the 3550 if you want the price a little down. Like I said above, I took the 3570 just out of habbit. The performence diffrence is almost nothing.

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I just got the feedback from about 5 people saying that the Z77 motherboard is much better and you shuld go for that one.
And I would agree with them, also found out that the B75 motherboard are made for business use, not gaming.
The SSD I linkd you is also faster and right now it is also cheeper as it is on sale so I would recommend changeing the SSD as well.
Processor is up to you at this point as there is no real performence diffrence between i5 3550 and i5 3570. 0.1 Ghz for 200 SEK or something.

[Deleted]

Aight, i think i'll stick the 3550 down then.

I think i'll stick with the Samsung SSD though, because the reviews about it made it seem like a very solid choice.

[Xoura]

Aight, i think i'll stick the 3550 down then.

I think i'll stick with the Samsung SSD though, because the reviews about it made it seem like a very solid choice.

The samsung is not a bad choice, not trying to tel you away from it cuz you are going to be happy about it anyway.
Hope you enjoy your new hardware and feel you got the help you needed.

[Deleted]

Very much got the help i needed thanks, maybe i'm lucky and the prices drop a bit till next week which is when i can order (payday!). Or i might come back since the prices skyrocketed :P

[superdooper]

The most important component for WoW is your CPU. I would upgrade to an overclockable CPU (i5-3570k) and clock it to 4.4-4.6Ghz. This will give your computer an extra 2yrs for gaming.

Video card does not have to be anything special for WoW - Radeon 6850 overclocked would be my choice.

8Gb of RAM is plenty. Get the best clock speed since this component is cheap.

1TB Cavier Black would be better for gaming - probably not much of a performance boost tho.

SSD for fast Windows loading - so just a fun perk (I would still get it tho).

[Lemmiwink]

http://www.komplett.se/k/cart.aspx?m...ListId=1144773
Did a check on how much watt you need for this hardware. And I suggest you get a new PSU as well when you are out getting new hardware.
This is a list of what I would buy myself if I had your budget to go on. It is 160SEK above your limit, but you can go back down to the CPU you choose and a lower motherboard (stay with Z77 chipset) if you realy can not go above 6 000.

I also choose to use an Nvidia GPU because I got better experience with Nvidia then ATI cards. Also, the Nvidia driver is a lot better then the one ATI gives you. This Nvidia gtx 660 is a little bit better then the Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 and costs about the same.

EDIT: Ups, forgot your 2TB HDD, hope that is ok? :P

I want to see what the results are after AMD's new driver came out. 306.97 Didn't give me any noticable performance boost. Word on the street is the 12.11 took the 7970 up with 7% putting it in the front seat for top gpu atm