1. #1

    Newest version of Simcraft being weird.

    I don't know if I have a setting set wrong.. but I just downloaded the latest simcraft and it's being a little weird with the stat values. Like when I just simmed my shaman I just got Crit: .98 Haste: 1.04 and Mastery: -1.49. And it's done that for a few other classes. Anyone know as to why it is giving me negative values?

    And on the side.. sometimes as well the Sim will just crash half way through the sim.. not everytime but 1 out of every 3 =/

  2. #2
    could you give us the profile that gives such a negative value for mastery (once you upload a profile it show a big "wall of text" starting by #!./simc), how many iteration are set (Options -> Globales -> Iterations, I guess default is 1000 or 10000, try putting at least 10,000 for statweight), and the error range for each stat (normally you should get a table with "Scale Factor","Normalized","Scale Deltas" and "Error", if you could give the "error" row it might help.

  3. #3
    I have the same issue

    profile is
    Code:
    #!./simc 
    
    shaman="Nebria"
    origin="http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/senjin/Nebria/advanced"
    level=90
    race=unknown
    spec=elemental
    role=spell
    position=back
    professions=jewelcrafting=600/alchemy=600
    talents=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#Wa!012212
    glyphs=flame_shock/fire_elemental_totem/chain_lightning/far_sight/lakestrider/spectral_wolf
    
    actions.precombat=flask,type=warm_sun
    actions.precombat+=/food,type=mogu_fish_stew
    actions.precombat+=/flametongue_weapon,weapon=main
    actions.precombat+=/lightning_shield,if=!buff.lightning_shield.up
    actions.precombat+=/snapshot_stats
    actions.precombat+=/jade_serpent_potion
    
    actions=wind_shear
    actions+=/bloodlust,if=target.health.pct<25|time>5
    actions+=/stormlash_totem,if=!active&!buff.stormlash.up&(buff.bloodlust.up|time>=60)
    actions+=/jade_serpent_potion,if=time>60&(pet.primal_fire_elemental.active|pet.greater_fire_elemental.active|target.time_to_die<=60)
    actions+=/run_action_list,name=single,if=active_enemies=1
    actions+=/run_action_list,name=ae,if=active_enemies>1
    
    actions.single=elemental_mastery,if=talent.elemental_mastery.enabled&time>15&((!buff.bloodlust.up&time<120)|(!buff.berserking.up&!buff.bloodlust.up&buff.ascendance.up)|(time>=200&(cooldown.ascendance.remains>30|level<87)))
    actions.single+=/fire_elemental_totem,if=!active
    actions.single+=/ascendance,if=dot.flame_shock.remains>buff.ascendance.duration&(target.time_to_die<20|buff.bloodlust.up|time>=180)&cooldown.lava_burst.remains>0
    actions.single+=/ancestral_swiftness,if=talent.ancestral_swiftness.enabled&!buff.ascendance.up
    actions.single+=/unleash_elements,if=talent.unleashed_fury.enabled&!buff.ascendance.up
    actions.single+=/flame_shock,if=!buff.ascendance.up&(!ticking|ticks_remain<2|((buff.bloodlust.up|buff.elemental_mastery.up)&ticks_remain<3))
    actions.single+=/lava_burst,if=dot.flame_shock.remains>cast_time&(buff.ascendance.up|cooldown_react)
    actions.single+=/elemental_blast,if=talent.elemental_blast.enabled&!buff.ascendance.up
    actions.single+=/earth_shock,if=buff.lightning_shield.react=buff.lightning_shield.max_stack
    actions.single+=/earth_shock,if=buff.lightning_shield.react>3&dot.flame_shock.remains>cooldown&dot.flame_shock.remains<cooldown+action.flame_shock.tick_time
    actions.single+=/earth_elemental_totem,if=!active&cooldown.fire_elemental_totem.remains>=50
    actions.single+=/searing_totem,if=cooldown.fire_elemental_totem.remains>15&!totem.fire.active
    actions.single+=/spiritwalkers_grace,moving=1
    actions.single+=/unleash_elements,moving=1
    actions.single+=/lightning_bolt
    
    actions.ae=ascendance
    actions.ae+=/lava_beam
    actions.ae+=/magma_totem,if=active_enemies>2&!totem.fire.active
    actions.ae+=/searing_totem,if=active_enemies<=2&!totem.fire.active
    actions.ae+=/flame_shock,cycle_targets=1,if=!ticking&active_enemies<3
    actions.ae+=/lava_burst,if=active_enemies<3&dot.flame_shock.remains>cast_time&cooldown_react
    actions.ae+=/earthquake,if=active_enemies>4
    actions.ae+=/thunderstorm,if=mana.pct_nonproc<80
    actions.ae+=/chain_lightning,if=mana.pct_nonproc>10
    actions.ae+=/lightning_bolt
    
    head=waterburst_helm,id=81075,gems=burning_primal_80int_160hit_180int,reforge=crit_haste
    neck=links_of_the_lucid,id=89067
    shoulders=mindbender_shoulders,id=89343,gems=80int_160haste_60int,enchant=200int_100crit
    back=cape_of_three_lanterns,id=86748,enchant=180int,reforge=crit_haste
    chest=uncasked_chestguard,id=81081,gems=80int_160haste_60int,enchant=80all,reforge=spi_mastery
    wrists=bracers_of_tempestuous_fury,id=86962,enchant=170mastery
    hands=malevolent_gladiators_mail_gauntlets,id=84845,gems=80int_160spi_60int,enchant=170haste,reforge=crit_haste
    waist=chain_of_shadow,id=86755,gems=320int_160int_320int,reforge=crit_haste
    legs=leggings_of_the_charging_soul,id=81092,gems=80int_160hit_60haste,enchant=285int_165spi,reforge=crit_spi
    feet=boots_of_unbreakable_umbrage,id=90907,enchant=140mastery,reforge=crit_haste
    finger1=the_horsemans_ring,id=88169,reforge=hit_mastery
    finger2=wicked_witchs_signet,id=88166,reforge=crit_haste
    trinket1=light_of_the_cosmos,id=86792
    trinket2=relic_of_yulon,id=79331
    main_hand=carapace_breaker,id=81094,enchant=jade_spirit
    off_hand=inscribed_red_fan,id=79335,enchant=165int,reforge=mastery_haste
    
    # Gear Summary
    # gear_strength=80
    # gear_agility=80
    # gear_stamina=14866
    # gear_intellect=12777
    # gear_spirit=4592
    # gear_spell_power=5152
    # gear_hit_rating=508
    # gear_crit_rating=2019
    # gear_haste_rating=5733
    # gear_mastery_rating=2027
    # gear_armor=22703
    # meta_gem=burning_primal
    # main_hand=carapace_breaker,weapon=mace_1.90speed_1620min_3009max,enchant=jade_spirit
    options (difference from default)
    25000 iterations, threads 8, region eu

    scaling
    checked crit, haste, mastery

    scale result
    Code:
                     Int    Spi     SP     Hit    Crit   Haste   Mastery
    Scale Factors    0.00   0.00    0.00   0.00   0.86  -2.22    -1.89
    Normalized       0.00   0.00    0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00    0.00
    Scale Deltas     1000   1000    1000   -1000  1000   1000    1000
    Error            0.00   0.00    0.00   0.00   0.04   0.04    0.04

  4. #4
    I'm sorry but I can't reproduce the problem neither on the svn version of simC nor on the 505-3 downloaded on the official website. The problem was however transmitted to the devs, which stated that they couldn't reproduce the error neither :/

    I did have frequent crashed with the 505-3 when launching simulation would make my computer lag (ie using another application while doing a simulation on all of my 8 core, or running 2 version of simC on 4 thread at the same time). Try using less threads to be sure your computer can handle it easilly (the latest svn version didn't seem to crash even on 8 threads, but it might be just luck, and most of the time I run simC with only 4 thread so...)

    edit : if it can be any help, the statweight I got for your profile where int (3.28), mastery (1.13), haste(1.00), crit(0.95), with an error of +-0.04
    Last edited by Bethan; 2012-10-23 at 04:05 PM.

  5. #5
    After trying to get by the crashing several times, it appear now that instead of giving me negative values. I am getting SP,Crit,Haste and Mastery all simming @ *nan*.

    I would post my profile but I don't know how to put it in a window box like the poster above me did... lol

  6. #6
    @Bethan
    ah ok I will lower the threads. I had a crash before so I had to restart the program. after that I got the results.
    thanks fpr the values

    @zykenwolf
    it is [ code ] [ /code ] without spaces
    when you reply to my post you also see this in the quote
    Last edited by Nebria; 2012-10-23 at 06:54 PM.

  7. #7
    Deleted
    Ummm I just got negative values for crit, haste and mastery on my warrior >.<
    Earlier I had it crash on 4 threads, which it used to run perfectly

    10.000 iterations
    runs on 2 threads (though much more slowly)

    Profile
    Code:
    #!./simc 
    
    warrior="Morghie"
    origin="http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/morghie/advanced"
    level=90
    race=night_elf
    spec=fury
    role=attack
    position=back
    professions=jewelcrafting=600/blacksmithing=600
    talents=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#ZZ!111212
    glyphs=death_from_above/gag_order/hindering_strikes/burning_anger/mystic_shout/blazing_trail
    
    actions.precombat=flask,type=winters_bite
    actions.precombat+=/food,type=black_pepper_ribs_and_shrimp
    actions.precombat+=/snapshot_stats
    actions.precombat+=/stance,choose=battle
    actions.precombat+=/mogu_power_potion
    
    actions=auto_attack
    actions+=/mogu_power_potion,if=(target.health.pct<20&buff.recklessness.up)|buff.bloodlust.react|target.time_to_die<=25
    actions+=/recklessness,use_off_gcd=1,if=((debuff.colossus_smash.remains>=5|cooldown.colossus_smash.remains<=4)&((!talent.avatar.enabled|!set_bonus.tier14_4pc_melee)&((target.health.pct<20|target.time_to_die>315|(target.time_to_die>165&set_bonus.tier14_4pc_melee)))|(talent.avatar.enabled&set_bonus.tier14_4pc_melee&buff.avatar.up)))|target.time_to_die<=18
    actions+=/avatar,use_off_gcd=1,if=talent.avatar.enabled&(((cooldown.recklessness.remains>=180|buff.recklessness.up)|(target.health.pct>=20&target.time_to_die>195)|(target.health.pct<20&set_bonus.tier14_4pc_melee))|target.time_to_die<=20)
    actions+=/bloodbath,use_off_gcd=1,if=talent.bloodbath.enabled&(((cooldown.recklessness.remains>=10|buff.recklessness.up)|(target.health.pct>=20&(target.time_to_die<=165|(target.time_to_die<=315&!set_bonus.tier14_4pc_melee))&target.time_to_die>75))|target.time_to_die<=19)
    actions+=/berserker_rage,use_off_gcd=1,if=!(buff.enrage.react|(buff.raging_blow.react=2&target.health.pct>=20))
    actions+=/heroic_leap,use_off_gcd=1,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up
    actions+=/deadly_calm,use_off_gcd=1,if=rage>=40
    actions+=/heroic_strike,use_off_gcd=1,if=(((debuff.colossus_smash.up&rage>=40)|(buff.deadly_calm.up&rage>=30))&target.health.pct>=20)|rage>=110
    actions+=/bloodthirst,if=!(target.health.pct<20&debuff.colossus_smash.up&rage>=30)
    actions+=/wild_strike,if=buff.bloodsurge.react&target.health.pct>=20&cooldown.bloodthirst.remains<=1
    actions+=/wait,sec=cooldown.bloodthirst.remains,if=!(target.health.pct<20&debuff.colossus_smash.up&rage>=30)&cooldown.bloodthirst.remains<=1
    actions+=/colossus_smash
    actions+=/execute
    actions+=/storm_bolt,if=talent.storm_bolt.enabled
    actions+=/raging_blow,if=buff.raging_blow.react
    actions+=/wild_strike,if=buff.bloodsurge.react&target.health.pct>=20
    actions+=/shockwave,if=talent.shockwave.enabled
    actions+=/dragon_roar,if=talent.dragon_roar.enabled
    actions+=/heroic_throw
    actions+=/battle_shout,if=rage<70&!debuff.colossus_smash.up
    actions+=/bladestorm,if=talent.bladestorm.enabled&cooldown.colossus_smash.remains>=5&!debuff.colossus_smash.up&cooldown.bloodthirst.remains>=2&target.health.pct>=20
    actions+=/wild_strike,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&target.health.pct>=20
    actions+=/impending_victory,if=talent.impending_victory.enabled&target.health.pct>=20
    actions+=/wild_strike,if=cooldown.colossus_smash.remains>=1&rage>=60&target.health.pct>=20
    actions+=/battle_shout,if=rage<70
    
    head=meteoric_greathelm,id=81241,gems=reverberating_primal_160exp_160crit_180str,reforge=haste_hit
    neck=paragons_pale_pendant,id=89066,reforge=parry_crit
    shoulders=acidscarred_spaulders,id=81098,gems=160exp_160crit_60crit,enchant=120str_80crit,reforge=exp_hit
    back=cloak_of_failing_will,id=81129,enchant=180hit,reforge=mastery_hit
    chest=ferocious_plate_of_the_golden_lotus,id=90600,enchant=80all
    wrists=commanding_bracers,id=81694,gems=320str,enchant=170mastery
    hands=malevolent_gladiators_plate_gauntlets,id=84840,gems=160exp_160hit_320str_60str,enchant=170str
    waist=binding_of_broken_dreams,id=81130,gems=320crit,reforge=mastery_exp
    legs=pyretic_legguards,id=82812,gems=160exp_160crit_60haste,enchant=170str_100crit,reforge=haste_exp
    feet=anchoring_sabatons,id=81284,gems=160exp_160crit_60str,enchant=140mastery,reforge=exp_hit
    finger1=firefinger_ring,id=81561,reforge=haste_crit
    finger2=band_of_the_petrified_pumpkin,id=88167,reforge=haste_mastery
    trinket1=carbonic_carbuncle,id=81138
    trinket2=corens_cold_chromium_coaster,id=87574
    main_hand=lightbreaker_greatsword,id=81577,enchant=windsong,reforge=mastery_crit
    off_hand=lightbreaker_greatsword,id=81577,enchant=windsong,reforge=mastery_crit
    
    # Gear Summary
    # gear_strength=11810
    # gear_agility=80
    # gear_stamina=15055
    # gear_intellect=80
    # gear_spirit=80
    # gear_expertise_rating=2583
    # gear_hit_rating=2563
    # gear_crit_rating=7542
    # gear_haste_rating=1025
    # gear_mastery_rating=2093
    # gear_armor=29564
    # gear_parry_rating=383
    # meta_gem=reverberating_primal
    # main_hand=lightbreaker_greatsword,weapon=sword2h_3.60speed_9462min_14193max,enchant=windsong
    # off_hand=lightbreaker_greatsword,weapon=sword2h_3.60speed_9462min_14193max,enchant=windsong
    Stat weights:
    Code:
    	          Str	Agi	AP	Exp	Hit	InvHit	Crit	Haste	Mastery	Wdps	WOHdps
    Scale Factors	2.15	0.00	0.00	2.39	2.60	0.00	-19.67	-20.28	-20.00	0.00	0.00
    Normalized	1.00	0.00	0.00	1.11	1.21	0.00	-9.14	-9.42	-9.29	0.00	0.00
    Scale Deltas	1000	1000	1000	-1000	-1000	1000	1000	1000	1000	300	300
    Error          	0.07	0.00	0.00	0.07	0.07	0.00	0.05	0.05	0.05	0.00	0.00
    (also - checking "Use positive deltas only" gave a calculation with somewhat reasonable stat weights)

  8. #8
    for me it even crashed on using 2 threads. I don't know why it crash at all however the devs should take a look there definitely. perhaps the negative values are also a result from using multiple threads.
    I have also issues to get a reforge pic of haste, mastery, crit it isn't showed at all (or what it is supposed to look like?)

    btw a mod should move this thread in a forum what fits more to this topic.^^

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