Separate 10 and 25 Man Raid Lockout and Reward Changes in Korea

[Taftvalue]

Imo that's stupid change, will force ppl to do both difficulties, that is too much for a week.

Yeah I heard all the people crying in Wotlk that there was a lot of content, oh wait, your argument is invalid.

[Trollfaced]

As I've said in earlier threads on this:

Separate lockouts - Fine.

Better loot for 25s - Not okay and doesnt make any sense at all.

[Matchu]

Yeah I heard all the people crying in Wotlk that there was a lot of content, oh wait, your argument is invalid.

Except now there is a lot of content. With Terrace and HoF out, that'd be 6 raids in one week.

[Galeos]

As I've said in earlier threads on this:

Separate lockouts - Fine.

Better loot for 25s - Not okay and doesnt make any sense at all.

Why not? please explain.

[NormySan]

This is stupid. Keep it as it is instead.

[muwatallis]

Bring this to Europe and make my day.

[6ev4enko]

If 10 mans are just "Bigger instances" then what the hell is Raid Finder?

Lol at your comment. Raid Finder gives shitter loot than 10 man, doesnt it? LFR was done so that bad raiders see the content and experience it, also to show what bosses can do in the encounters etc.

[Taftvalue]

As I've said in earlier threads on this:

Separate lockouts - Fine.

Better loot for 25s - Not okay and doesnt make any sense at all.

Yeah sure, raiding 10 men is not even half the effort, so it's absolutely fine that you get rewarded the same loot for not even half the effort. You sir or madam have a nice logic.

[Takamuri]

Really mixed feelings about this if it comes to the US...

I was part of a top 25 guild for several years, and this is a really hard thing to balance. It really depends on the total number of bosses per tier...

During ICC progression I was getting burned out, having to do a 10 and 25 man to stay competitive. During farm it wasn't so bad, it gave extra content to do with friends in the guild.

[Korbany]

I would really enjoy having 10 and 25 back to the way they were on US servers. To those saying it "screws 10man guilds" or something along those lines, your argument makes no sense. Essentially you're saying that you want to put in less time, less effort, and reap the same rewards as people organizing and participating in 25man raids. That's absolutely not fair to the people who would rather do 25man...if you don't have the time or the guild to do the hardest content, you don't deserve the best gear, it really is that simple regardless of what anybody tries to claim. And to further expand - if you are only doing 10man raids, why do you NEED 25man level gear? The answer is you don't, so who cares if your 10man drops weaker gear than a 25man.

One of Blizzard's given reasons for LFR being 25 man instead of 10 man, is because 25 man raids are more forgiving of mistakes, lack of coordination and poor player performance than 10 man raids. This of course also applies to normal and heroic difficulty raids.

The simple truth is that 25 man raids are, for the most part, easier than 10 man raids and as such should offer loot of a lower item level than 10 man raids.

And to further expand - if you are only doing 25 man raids, why do you NEED better than 10 man level gear? The answer is you don't, so who cares if your 25 man drops weaker gear than a 10 man.

[Darkblazer]

Give me this and take my money

[Rivyr]

This should not be a korea only thing. there are alot of players in the US that are competative raiders and enjoy doing multiple raids. The US and EU realms should not be left out of this. If people dont want to raid multiple nights during the week then they dont have to, we should not be excluded due to casuals prefference.

[martinboy]

For those of you wondering why only korean server, it's pretty simple: they pay per hours of play not months.

That means that they only pay for their raid times and then stay unsub the rest of the time.

Please bring that pay plan to EU also.

[Inrehab]

I would welcome this change, but honestly I give it a max 10% chance of ever hitting US/EU realms

[zeq]

the very second 10-man rewards are worse than 25-man rewards again I will quit. And I don't think I'm alone with that.

Bye. Horrible reason to quit.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

Have my doubts this will go to EU or US without a shitstorm of QQ from 10man raiders...

[Gumf]

I really hope, that we will get this in EU too!

[Matchu]

Yeah sure, raiding 10 men is not even half the effort, so it's absolutely fine that you get rewarded the same loot for not even half the effort. You sir or madam have a nice logic.

An argument that emphasises that the difficulty in 25 man raiding is not the raid, but getting 25 people to raid.

[Fahrenheit]

Yeah sure, raiding 10 men is not even half the effort, so it's absolutely fine that you get rewarded the same loot for not even half the effort. You sir or madam have a nice logic.

The only people who put in any additional effort in 25m over 10m are the recruitment officers. As a raider of both, it's the same. You show up, press some buttons, kills some interent dragons and collect purple stuff.

[treepwood728]

I see this maybe happenning in China as well. Remember in Korea and China the games are free you download and you pay to play. However their pay to play is different. They pay to play by time not a flat fee.