Separate 10 and 25 Man Raid Lockout and Reward Changes in Korea

**Nah** · 2012-10-25, 05:32 PM

Higher ilvl in 25 mans? WHELP, time to learn Korean...

**Scorp969** · 2012-10-25, 05:33 PM

welcome back wotlk system

**Ragu4** · 2012-10-25, 05:33 PM

Well i lost a long ass post detailing my opinion to the unknown, so i'll just say I never minded the difference between 10 and 25, never cared about Ilvl differences, and my friends and guildmates in WOTLK never really cared, so i personally don't see any fuss. We were a 25 man raiding guild btw, and ran 10 man for fun if we felt like it.

**greyghost** · 2012-10-25, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Heltoray

the very second 10-man rewards are worse than 25-man rewards again I will quit. And I don't think I'm alone with that.

This. All of this.

Absolutely no one would want to do 10-mans again if this ever became the case again. There's simply no need for it to come back to the WotLK system; 10-man raiding in WotLK is what LFR raids were supposed to replace. 10-man raids are for people who want challenging content but without the challenge of having to put up with 15 more dipshits than you normally wouldn't want to put up with.

What I hope this is, is Blizzard just doing a reigonal appeal. Sure, this could be a more popular option in Korea, but this absolutely will NOT fly in the NA servers again.

**Immitis** · 2012-10-25, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Monteverdi

Umm.... ok? I dunno, something doesn't sound legit about this. Can't see them making a change like this solely to one region.

korea pays per minute/hour/day. more raids per week = more asian moniez

**Zeek Daniels** · 2012-10-25, 05:35 PM

Its become very clear to me after reading and posting in a few threads about 10/25 man raiding and viewing posts in this thread that some of the World of Warcraft players who post here are very selfish in that they only care about the gear. If u try separating item levels between the raids they feel like they are forced into doing both or into doing the one with the higher ilvl even when they are not. Blizz doesnt force you into content with how they do ilvls. You the player decide the ilvl is the be all end all of end-game raiding. If you are not in the highest ilvl gear you feel like you are not getting what you deserve.

If blizzard changed the ilvls so that heroic modes nerfed your gear to a lower ilvl and rewarded you titles instead, no one would do them. All these ppl care about is their gear, and not the game they are playing. Its really sad.

**Krolikn** · 2012-10-25, 05:36 PM

Well Korea is known for their hardcore gaming. The rest of us don't need to worry....or if you want this over here you guys will need a lot more support.

**Chuckd** · 2012-10-25, 05:36 PM

Please god dont change the damn ilvl. Thats not helping at all. Not for uss, please I beg you Blizz, if I have to go back to 25man and this fucking questing for rep, thats it for me!

I love Wow to bits but I just cant put in that kind of time, yes I can raid 3-4 nights a week, but I dont then want the rest of my week spent pugging LFR and actual 25man to get loot, on top of quests!!!

**Hrothgarzon15** · 2012-10-25, 05:37 PM

Also, we shouldn't be comparing this to WOTLK because the differences between 10 and 25 were absolute cluster fuck of diferences compared to what it seems like they are doing here

**Pyro1990** · 2012-10-25, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by greyghost

This. All of this.

Absolutely no one would want to do 10-mans again if this ever became the case again. There's simply no need for it to come back to the WotLK system; 10-man raiding in WotLK is what LFR raids were supposed to replace. 10-man raids are for people who want challenging content but without the challenge of having to put up with 15 more dipshits than you normally wouldn't want to put up with.

What I hope this is, is Blizzard just doing a reigonal appeal. Sure, this could be a more popular option in Korea, but this absolutely will NOT fly in the NA servers again.

I'm sorry but i'm 100 % positive that there were numerous 10 man only guilds back in WOTLK. So obviously your statement of "Absolutely no one" is a little misconstrued. Furthermore I've always been found of doing 25 mans on my main and 10 mans on my alts.

I don't have a problem either way, staying how it is or going back to WOTLK style. But don't use a completely false and broad statement to try and reinforce your stance. It does more harm than good.

**Unarmed1000** · 2012-10-25, 05:39 PM

Stop fucking up the game and let people raid the format they want to! 10 and 25 need to stay at the same item level or your force people to play something they dont want.

**Moradim** · 2012-10-25, 05:39 PM

10's get lower ilvl gear? stupid. anyone who thinks 10's are easier never did sinestra 10.

**Hellfury** · 2012-10-25, 05:39 PM

Oncoming Shitstorm, ohh nvm the shitstorm its already here.

As a 25man player Iam happy about it and hopefully it can reach EU/US servers but somehow I doubt it

**Jeanpierre** · 2012-10-25, 05:40 PM

Trolled as fuck

**Rivyr** · 2012-10-25, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels

Its become very clear to me after reading and posting in a few threads about 10/25 man raiding and viewing posts in this thread that some of the World of Warcraft players who post here are very selfish in that they only care about the gear. If u try separating item levels between the raids they feel like they are forced into doing both or into doing the one with the higher ilvl even when they are not. Blizz doesnt force you into content with how they do ilvls. You the player decide the ilvl is the be all end all of end-game raiding. If you are not in the highest ilvl gear you feel like you are not getting what you deserve.

If blizzard changed the ilvls so that heroic modes nerfed your gear to a lower ilvl and rewarded you titles instead, no one would do them. All these ppl care about is their gear, and not the game they are playing. Its really sad.

I agree with this very much.

**Djouga** · 2012-10-25, 05:40 PM

Good to know Blizzard just went full retard.

**Tushazkk** · 2012-10-25, 05:40 PM

One day Blizzard will make one raid size for all thier raids, 15 mans and no one will complaint anymore. And for all the people that believe if 25 gives better reward than 10 raiders will not want to do 25s if they dont like it, you are dumb. Every 10 mans will be forced to do 25s, the loot is there, just like it was in WOTLK. So just do 1 raid size and everything will be solved.

**Mudkiper** · 2012-10-25, 05:41 PM

At last blizzard taking some steps to improve the game.

**Spotnick** · 2012-10-25, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by exae

Ah just like 10m has been killing of 25 since the release of Cata?

It's not killing it if you have a choice. I stepped down from raid leading a 25 man raid to make my own 10 man group for Dragon Soul, best move I ever made. It was a choice.

Problem has never been the same item dropping in both format, it was that people who prefer doing 25 couldn't always find a raid spot in a 25 man guild. They could have fixed that by opening the 25 man raids to cross-realm raiding, and leave 10 man server-only. Then players really have a choice, which is the whole point of having 2 raid formats.

**Peking_Man** · 2012-10-25, 05:42 PM

So during the entirety of vanilla, tbc and wotlk you hated raiding, BUT during cataclysm (branded as the worst expansion) you LOVED raiding?
All of a sudden everyone praises Cataclysm as the best expansion?
Strange...

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