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    Building a New PC

    Hey guys! I am building a pc for the first time. How's this look. And I'll deal with the mouse and keyboard later, the monitor is listed below. Thanks for your help guys! Also all these items are from newegg, all except the monitor from tigerdirect.


    Antec Eleven Hundred Black Super Mid Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811129178 $99.99

    Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #: N82E16822148840 $89.99 + 1 year warranty for $6.99

    ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
    Item #: N82E16813157267 $169.99 + 1 year warranty for $16.99

    ASUS PCE-N53 PCI Express Dual-Band Wireless-N600 Adapter
    Item #: N82E16833320113 $39.99

    GIGABYTE GV-R797TO-3GD Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
    Item #: N82E16814125439 $449.99 + warranty of $39.99 for one year.

    AMD Gift - 4-in-1 Game Coupon
    Item #: N82E16800995140

    LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
    Item #: N82E16827106276 $19.99

    ASUS Xonar DS 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Audio Card
    Item #: N82E16829132013 $52.99

    Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Item #: N82E16817371049 $89.99

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL
    Item #: N82E16820231489 $69.99

    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

    Antec TrueQuiet 120 120mm Case Fan 3 of them $36.57 (For all of them)
    Item #: N82E16835209050

    AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
    Item #: N82E16819103960 $189.99 + 1 year free warranty

    Total: $1,496.22 + 149.99 = $1646.21

    Monitor:
    Acer G245HQ 24" Class Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 80000:1, 5ms, DVI, VGA, Energy Star
    Item#: A179-236 $149.99
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    1. Antec cases from my experience, while very well built are a nightmare to build in, even for a seasoned builder. I would not recommend one if this is your first built. I really like coolermaster cases, well built and easy to build in.
    2. Im not a fan of seagate drives, I know others will disagree, but for a gaming machine a wd caviar black is great. An SSD would be better and the fact that you are budgeting $1500 on a gaming rig with no ssd is sad.
    3. Do not buy an AMD processor. For gaming they are soooooo far behind intel right now. Buy a 3570k i5. Best gaming processor hands down.

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    Now for an ssd they are expensive would you recommend I get a small one on the side to go hand and hand. I believe you can have 2 hard drives so would you recommend that method.

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    imo the 7970 is overkill, way overkill if you aren't doing a multi monitor setup, go with a 660ti, and use the money you save to buy a good ssd.
    In my rig i have a 120gig ssd as boot drive with os web browser office, and bf3 on it, and everything else goes on my 1tb hdd

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    I'm probably going to stick with the antec case as my friend will be helping me with this and he started off with his first build in an antec. So I should get an intel is there truly a huge difference. I'm not going to lie I am by no means a pro at computers, definitely a novice at the current time. I am just wondering that with the amd zambezi am I not getting a higher processor speed as well as more cores is that not a benefit?

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    Yes there is a huge difference with intel, around 30% higher performance depending on the game. Games cannot utilize more than 4 cores currently so the 8 cores of an amd give no benefit. The 3570k i5 is the go to gaming processor right now.
    There are other factors that contribute to overall processor performance other than just clock speed.

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    Alright then I just need to change my motherboard to an intel based motherboard any suggestions on that? Now you also mentioned about the graphics card is that necessarily a bad thing to have a 7970 ghz edition. From what I've read its the top of the line even surpassing the nvidia geforce 680 if thats the correct one. I mean its not surpassing it by much but it still is surpassing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmavl View Post
    Alright then I just need to change my motherboard to an intel based motherboard any suggestions on that? Now you also mentioned about the graphics card is that necessarily a bad thing to have a 7970 ghz edition. From what I've read its the top of the line even surpassing the nvidia geforce 680 if thats the correct one. I mean its not surpassing it by much but it still is surpassing it.
    ASUS p8z77-v series. The budget option is the LX or LK. LK seems to be recommended more often.
    Asrock Extreme series. Extreme 4 seems to be recommended the most often.
    Gigabyte too, but I don't know which model.

    The 7970 is great, but its also expensive. You have to keep that in mind. He's suggesting you shift that $100 to a SSD instead.

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    Yeah I was wondering though my final thought on what he said is considering the SSD drive. Now I understand and SSD drive is extremely useful and far better than a normal hard drive. I just was wondering if I honestly need it. Does a faster booting time and shutting down timeframe make it worth that huge price difference for a extremely small amount of GB. I mean with a 128 GB its already 100 dollars and for most Desktops that's not a lot of memory. So what's your suggestions I would like to keep the graphics card as I would like to finally be able to run on some high quality graphics. And I found a motherboard earlier a gigabyte GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard. Which was normally 199.99 but now is listed for $179.99. So I think that's good enough for a motherboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmavl View Post
    Yeah I was wondering though my final thought on what he said is considering the SSD drive. Now I understand and SSD drive is extremely useful and far better than a normal hard drive. I just was wondering if I honestly need it. Does a faster booting time and shutting down timeframe make it worth that huge price difference for a extremely small amount of GB. I mean with a 128 GB its already 100 dollars and for most Desktops that's not a lot of memory. So what's your suggestions I would like to keep the graphics card as I would like to finally be able to run on some high quality graphics. And I found a motherboard earlier a gigabyte GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard. Which was normally 199.99 but now is listed for $179.99. So I think that's good enough for a motherboard.
    Yes! SSD also translates to faster load times, and the prices are around 1$=1GB, sometimes less depending on if you look around. However, I'd get a large storage 7200 RPM HDD for movies and music, and use the SSD for OS and the few games you primarily play. The graphics card, while overkill, is nice if you want the budget for it. If you decide to go for a nVidia build for some other reason then get a 670 instead of the 660Ti or 680; best bang for your buck their side. As for the motherboard that one is fine.

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    Again as I've said I'm quite a novice haha! I just was wondering what your saying is I can get a normal HDD and a side SSD now the side SSD how does that work does go into the motherboard also with the HDD? And when I set it up as that would you say 120 gb for an SDD is quite fine, or do I even need that much. I like the overkill of an graphics card, and I'm definitely trying to keep that. So If I got an SSD with an HDD how does it work does the game automatically work with the SSD sorry again i'm a newbie and not too sure how your system decides which hard drive it is using if you understand what I'm asking I might just be confusing you haha. Thanks guys by the way I truly appreciate the help.

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    Yeah, connects through a SATA cable just like a HDD. You can run more than two but then you get into RAID formats and such. If ever you need more storage you can always get a USB 3.0 external SSD.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-26 at 03:24 AM ----------

    All you have to do with the game is install it on the SSD instead of the HDD and it will load faster. No fiddling with settings or anything besides the game's install path.

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    Also, 120GB should be fine. Depends on the games you play, Windows 7 x64 can get cut down to 16-18GB-ish.

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    Since I cannot send links newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 Just add 3 w's and does that look good for an SSD? How do the fans look is 5 fans enough I would think so. I bought 3 extra fans and I have a total of 2 fans that come with the fan and they each have individual switches for higher and lower speeds.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-25 at 11:32 PM ----------

    I'm trying to keep my price around 1600 so I'll look at downgrading my graphics card for the SDD any recommendations on good graphics cards for about 350?

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    Also if anyone ever responds to this how do you tell if the antec case is large enough to fit everything I don't think trial and error for a 100 dollar case is the best idea.

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    Also do I need thermal Compound I was reading up about that and from what I can read the processor comes with it but for 8 bucks if it doesn't I'll buy some I just want to know if it does come with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmavl View Post
    Since I cannot send links newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 Just add 3 w's and does that look good for an SSD? How do the fans look is 5 fans enough I would think so. I bought 3 extra fans and I have a total of 2 fans that come with the fan and they each have individual switches for higher and lower speeds.[COLOR="red"]

    I'm trying to keep my price around 1600 so I'll look at downgrading my graphics card for the SDD any recommendations on good graphics cards for about 350?

    Also if anyone ever responds to this how do you tell if the antec case is large enough to fit everything I don't think trial and error for a 100 dollar case is the best idea.

    Also do I need thermal Compound I was reading up about that and from what I can read the processor comes with it but for 8 bucks if it doesn't I'll buy some I just want to know if it does come with it.
    The Samsung 830 is a solid choice for an SSD. One note, the B/WW version of the SSD does not include a SSD mounting kit. This shouldn't be a problem because the Antec Eleven Hundred has 2.5" mount bays.

    The $350 price point is shared by the 660 Ti and 7950.

    Yes. Mid Tower cases are more than enough to fit all but the most extreme builds. Case selection depends primarily on three points: 1) Aesthetic, 2) Features and 3) build quality.

    All Intel CPUs come with a stock heatsink with a thermal pad already applied. Most aftermarket heatsinks should include their own thermal compound.

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    Thanks I appreciate your help on this matter. I'll post the specs for my build then later when I'm done with classes as I'm in college. With the new intel and everything. Thanks again man.

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    Alright so everything listed above is the same except for the motherboard and processor which I will list below and I'm going to get an SSD later as it can always be installed at a later time into the computer it's not a whole complicated process there. So with all those items is this good? And I asked earlier is 5 fans sufficient which I honestly think 5 fans is plenty but I just want to be safe than sorry and ask. And does it matter where I install the fans the case I am buying has spots for something like 12 fans which is ridiculous. So it offers 3 spots on the side and a few in the front and back. Does it honestly matter where I install them as they all are 120mm except for the one on the top which is provided and thats 200mm and obviously that can only fit there.

    GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Item #: N82E16813128545 $179.99

    Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
    Item #: N82E16819116504 $229.99

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