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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorant View Post
    Valors are not meant to be capped with random heroics alone.
    The idea, as it was presented in beta, was to give more options for how you earn valor. Not to force you to do dailies. The idea was that you're given the choice between getting your valor from running heroics, by raiding, or by doing dailies. The whole "choice" part was kind of ruined when they made the valor gains from heroics so low that you had to do ~30 of them every week to cap, though. If you ever feel like you have to do dailies to cap valor, the system is not working as intended.

    I find the "first heroic every day grants double valor" change to be a big step backwards. It basically rewards people who can play an hour every day compared to people who can play seven hours every Sunday. The whole point of making it "7 weekly heroics" rather than one daily was to remove that gap. Now instead they've basically gone back to the pre-Cata model where you're rewarded for having spread out playtime, and get better rewards for playing half an hour per day than playing five hours on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93sika View Post
    Most epic World of Warcraft music since Karazhan! =)
    agreed its just AWSOME
    You're a fine example of how gamer communities have become infested with endlessly whining and bitching, arrogant, opinionated, unreasonable, all the way immature, completely delusional, tendentially psychotic, insulting individuals one really doesn't want to be linked with. And playing with you guys is certainly no fun at all. I don't know where this kind of folks spawns from. Must be a nest somewhere ...
    A fine summarization of the community

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Trops View Post

    EDIT: Also, the cosplay is horrible. It looks like Poppa Smurf in Sylvanas' clothes.
    It doesn't help that she seems to be like 1.5m in height either.. costume is nice when it comes to the detail though... except the absolutly terrible blue paint on her skin.

    @ Valor Points: After beeing done with all the daily factions except Shado-Pan and August Celestials it dawned on me yesterday that even with clearing all raidcontent a week on heroic difficulty (which I'm very far away from) I'd still need to do dailies -.-. The increase in lfx rewards will help, but the whole 1st a day crap is such a giant leap back..sad how they never learn from their mistakes. Also given the difficulty of challenge modes they could give 1k valor for gold and it wouldn't be anywhere close to too much.
    Last edited by Haidaes; 2012-10-26 at 11:18 AM.

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    Still, valor from challenge mode daily way too unattractive, if compared to old heroic daily.
    No one wants to do the challenge mode daily quest at all, since its way easier to just queue up in LFG.

    A bit disappointed that bliz lied about MoP "heoric" is at "wrath difficulty", which is false.
    I dont see any loken, gate keeper or lay guardian in MoP and challenge mode doesnt add any additional deadly attacks either.

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    Nice costume but she is a bit short for Syl.

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    With that music, we should get Pennywise to sit on the ride behind you in that merry-go-round. "Pennywise is watching you! " i'd love that haha.

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    Have you ever considered removing the ilvl from pvp gear? Seems like this would solve the issue of padding with it in raids.
    It is lower ilevel than equivalent PvE gear. We like that you can use PvP gear as a substitute for PvE gear, but only that.
    Vindicated.

    Also, I'm going to plug wowpopular.com, as it has many more tables of the popular things people are doing and is currently being updated.

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    "Did you pre-order Mists of Pandaria?"

    The poll should really have an 'Have not bought MoP'-option.

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    Sylvanas looks more like a Draenei/Smurf in that dark blue body paint, they should've used a light bluish/grey color like she actually is.

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    so valor gets increased and conquest doesnt, mop is turning out to be the worst pvp type expansion yet. most people i know have already cancelled there subs cos there sick of bots in rated bg's and random bg's and since blizz force you to do rated bg's now to get the full 1650 points i predict alot of losses in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcraftmew View Post
    so valor gets increased and conquest doesnt, mop is turning out to be the worst pvp type expansion yet. most people i know have already cancelled there subs cos there sick of bots in rated bg's and random bg's and since blizz force you to do rated bg's now to get the full 1650 points i predict alot of losses in the near future
    Yeah this is how I feel exactly, I'm glad I only paid for a 1 month sub, run's out in a few days and won't be renewing until Blizz decides to remove bots from this game. Seems like they rather get subscription money from bot accounts rather than ban them.

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    A bit disappointed that bliz lied about MoP "heoric" is at "wrath difficulty", which is false.
    I dont see any loken, gate keeper or lay guardian in MoP
    Loken was only interesting in the first weeks. After that you just stood there and lusted him down.
    I never understood why peeps had problems with the gate keeper.

    Ley Guardian was only "hard" b/c peeps needed to control a vehicle instead of their class.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by good diu bro View Post
    Still, valor from challenge mode daily way too unattractive, if compared to old heroic daily.
    No one wants to do the challenge mode daily quest at all, since its way easier to just queue up in LFG.
    Really? Daily Challenge + Gold = 165 VP is that not more than the old heroic daily?

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    I am already capping valor by doing half of the dailies. I guess this is only good for when you already have the reputation and don't want to do dailies anymore.

    Nerf to Scarlet Halls? 1st time I was there we wiped on Armsmaster many times and quit. Next tank/healer saw SH and dropped
    Players have a hard time avoiding the whirlwind. Try fighting him below and running up when he does it. Easy to avoid after that.
    Dear lord. There is one mechanic in all of the dungeons that can actually kill you and someone is asking for a nerf. It is also extremely easy to avoid the whirlwind.
    Last edited by Gilian; 2012-10-26 at 12:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good diu bro View Post
    Still, valor from challenge mode daily way too unattractive, if compared to old heroic daily.
    No one wants to do the challenge mode daily quest at all, since its way easier to just queue up in LFG.

    A bit disappointed that bliz lied about MoP "heoric" is at "wrath difficulty", which is false.
    I dont see any loken, gate keeper or lay guardian in MoP and challenge mode doesnt add any additional deadly attacks either.
    The reason given was because they are fast and yet they are about as fast as the DS heroics which would mean then that the DS heroics over rewarded players which in comparison to previous heroics is quite true. I still find the reward amounts to be pro daily playing and anti weekend warriors that Cata heavily supported and was an emphasis towards making the game casual friendly.

    Personally as a healer and a dps, the heroics feel on par with WotLK normals and is about on par with how mindless and chore like the dailies are. I am disappointed that I have to do preform groups in order to find group based content that is remotely relevant to my skill level which compared to Cata is not as accessible.

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    Such a great bit of music! Love it!

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    I'm so glad they have updated the Darkmoon Faire music. The original music was fun, the revamped music was just bad and the only time I've ever had turn WoW music off. This new one is much much better!

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    80/40 per hc is still way too low to really be worth the bother

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    I really like that music.

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    Love the music!

    As for the Sylvanas cosplay, I agree that the skin color leaves a lot to be desired but look at the costume and prop - it's nice detail.
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