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  1. #181
    I have no inclination to roll one, doesn't interest me in the slightest.

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    You must not realize that most of the world first heroic kills in MSV were from guilds that faction changed multiple times resetting their valor and raid lock outs each time... Nice try though.
    Pretty sure they fixed that in mid DS.
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  3. #183
    yeah wasn't that great waiting until level 30 to finally get another heal. Good thing pvp and dungeons at that level are always faceroll anyway. I'll get the healer to max level at some point and we'll see if I have the motivation to level the tank.

  4. #184
    I played one to 86, but restarting from 1 when 5.1 finally comes out. I am excited to level without the clunky-ness of having to stack tp 3x at the start of every fight, for the 10% increased movement speed, and for the change to ascension. 5.1 can't come soon enough :3.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffs View Post
    Pretty sure they fixed that in mid DS.
    I'm pretty sure they fixed this way before DS.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by bajskorv View Post
    They're the easiest class to play by far so that makes them uninteresting to the majority of players, yes.
    you are wrong.
    Mistweaver is possibly the healer with the highest skil cap
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    I did not like my monk until I healed with him and then I love him...but the healing is getting a major nerf so then they will just suck all around .

  8. #188
    Nope, you're not alone. I rolled a WW monk with full BoAs. Got it to level 10 in like an hour, jumped into a BG, and was so disgusted by it's lack of ability to do any real dmg or healing, that I afked out of the BG and deleted the character. I looked through all the monk abilities, and discovered that they don't get any self heals as a DPS, so I figured it wasn't worth struggling in pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bany View Post
    you are wrong.
    Mistweaver is possibly the healer with the highest skil cap
    I already agreed with this before I started leveling another one of my characters. Then I went and did some instances on my holy pally and marveled at exactly how much harder I had been working on my monk. I've gotta check my activity levels in recount one night during raid for sure, it feels like I never stop. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Eroginous View Post
    Nope, you're not alone. I rolled a WW monk with full BoAs. Got it to level 10 in like an hour, jumped into a BG, and was so disgusted by it's lack of ability to do any real dmg or healing, that I afked out of the BG and deleted the character. I looked through all the monk abilities, and discovered that they don't get any self heals as a DPS, so I figured it wasn't worth struggling in pvp.

    Blizzard did the opposite of DKs this time.
    I....what? I think perhaps you didn't look close enough if you think they don't get any self heals. Chi Wave/Chi Burst, Expel Harm, Blackout Kick, Tigereye Brew (with Healing Elixirs), Healing Sphere? Granted I haven't really done much pvp yet and when I do it will be as a mistweaver but I've seen plenty of WW on the monk forums talking about how they've adapted for pvp and I've never had a problem keeping myself alive while doing dailies even when pulling entire packs of mobs.

    Perhaps level 10 is a bit too soon to make an educated judgement.

  10. #190
    You may not be the only one. However I do believe you are in the minority.

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    I....what? I think perhaps you didn't look close enough if you think they don't get any self heals. Chi Wave/Chi Burst, Expel Harm, Blackout Kick, Tigereye Brew (with Healing Elixirs), Healing Sphere? Granted I haven't really done much pvp yet and when I do it will be as a mistweaver but I've seen plenty of WW on the monk forums talking about how they've adapted for pvp and I've never had a problem keeping myself alive while doing dailies even when pulling entire packs of mobs.

    Perhaps level 10 is a bit too soon to make an educated judgement.
    The first self heal ability they get is level 26. That's 16 levels of shit until you get something useful, and it's not even a good self heal. I'm not going to play a hybrid class which can't even self heal when I could play a shaman, druid, or priest and be more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eroginous View Post
    The first self heal ability they get is level 26. That's 16 levels of shit until you get something useful, and it's not even a good self heal. I'm not going to play a hybrid class which can't even self heal when I could play a shaman, druid, or priest and be more effective.
    Point taken, as far as low level pvp goes.

    Your initial post sounded like you were talking about WW monk self healing abilities overall and pvp as a whole, including at 90. I was just pointing out they do have them. :P

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    Leveling a Monk had its ups and downs (especially for MW), but I'm totally addicted to the class now. Mistweaver is the most fun healer I've ever played (played them all but a Tree) and WW is hella fun.

    My only complaint: WW healing utility is sparse and clunky (Healing Sphere). I'm used to Enhance and Shadow's off healing capabilities, though. That's my main gameplay gripe (give us Surging Mist!!!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavol View Post
    Leveling a Monk had its ups and downs (especially for MW), but I'm totally addicted to the class now. Mistweaver is the most fun healer I've ever played (played them all but a Tree) and WW is hella fun.

    My only complaint: WW healing utility is sparse and clunky (Healing Sphere). I'm used to Enhance and Shadow's off healing capabilities, though. That's my main gameplay gripe (give us Surging Mist!!!).
    I do have to agree with you on this one, although I rather enjoyed even leveling as around level 30 I started doing much of my leveling in mistweaver while healing instances and loved it the entire time. I have played max level end game healers of every single healing class (including not 1, but 2 shamans) now, and as I said before, after going back and healing some stuff on some of my other healing classes I've realized exactly how much different and more interactive mistweaver healing is than other classes.

    I would greatly appreciate surging mist as a baseline heal for the other monk specs though, as you said. I don't understand why the other classes all get a baseline heal but monks don't in their non-heal specs.

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    I'm very uninterested in them. Personally, I hate the form of Monk they chose. I hate the "drunken master" kit for monks. My favored type of monk is the spiritual ascetic. I was hoping they'd go for something like this....but, when I saw the whole brewmaster thing ...I just got turned off. Plus I dislike Pandaren... (obviously I don't need to be a Pandaren). But yeah.

  16. #196
    My monk is lv6, and he had three times full rested exp. So yes, they are boring for me too

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    BrM's are still amazing at 90 for PVE, pulled almost 100k DPS this weekend on Stone Guard and took less damage than our warrior who was only tanking one dog. I do agree that WW has issues and the class isn't well suited for PVP right now (not that I PVP) but tanking wise they are great fun and perform very well.

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  18. #198
    I'm quite alright with playing my Mistweaver monk at L90 ...

    It's strength seems to be raid healing and a lot of mobility, able to heal on the move quite well. The AoE "Lay on Hands" kinda cooldown they have can make a lot of encounters much easier too, it's the ultimate raidhealing cooldown.

    But besides all that ... it seems to lack direction. It feels like they weren't quite certain of what direction, what style of healing they wanted to give the class. It's a bit of a bit of everything, and in the end it doesn't feel much different to me from healing on a resto shaman.

  19. #199
    The monk class is fine, WW just needs some form of cleave nothing else(FoF is fine) and 5.1 will decrease the "High Skill" (blizzard statement, not personal opinion in any way possible)... Required for "Monks" I do welcome the ascension talent change I have tested it on the PTR and it feels alot more of how i want to play my monk than currently on live (Correction it feels alot more like I expected the monk class to be played, I don't mind stacking the TP buff).

  20. #200
    I actually really enjoy the monk class from what ive seen. Im just not a big fan of melee dps so levelling is a bit of a pain.

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