Thread: PvP Questions

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    PvP Questions

    Hi there, I am trying to play healer in arenas but generally I can not manage bursts. I will make a short list of problems i am experiencing. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

    1- I can not fear warriors even with psyfiend, when I am using my symbiosis he reflects it back to me and when he chases me i simply am dead. Holy spec disorient is not helping that much either.

    2- Slows are unavoidable, I use phantasm but again 3 seconds isnt generally too bright.

    3- Today I played againts a Retridin and Enchaman. I chastised, feared , fear again then cycloned but paladin was still running to me. What am I supposed to do ? (My drood were ccing shammy too)

    4- In same match as 3rd topic I made 1.3m healing in like 20 secs but i still died. Used the angel, life change, tier 6 heal.Anything i have but i died.

    5- My mana goes down faster than other healers. I use BE racial. Improved shadowfiend and never spam skills, i even use inner will but mana dies so fast.(in a match i tried to drink it said unusable in arena. is there a specific drink or it is disallowed completely ?)

    6- I can not go offensive either because if i get interrupted i can not heal either which is a great problem.

    I will add more questions if i happen to remember a specific problem . Thanks for help in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyro View Post
    Hi there, I am trying to play healer in arenas but generally I can not manage bursts. I will make a short list of problems i am experiencing. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

    1- I can not fear warriors even with psyfiend, when I am using my symbiosis he reflects it back to me and when he chases me i simply am dead. Holy spec disorient is not helping that much either.

    2- Slows are unavoidable, I use phantasm but again 3 seconds isnt generally too bright.

    3- Today I played againts a Retridin and Enchaman. I chastised, feared , fear again then cycloned but paladin was still running to me. What am I supposed to do ? (My drood were ccing shammy too)

    4- In same match as 3rd topic I made 1.3m healing in like 20 secs but i still died. Used the angel, life change, tier 6 heal.Anything i have but i died.

    5- My mana goes down faster than other healers. I use BE racial. Improved shadowfiend and never spam skills, i even use inner will but mana dies so fast.(in a match i tried to drink it said unusable in arena. is there a specific drink or it is disallowed completely ?)

    6- I can not go offensive either because if i get interrupted i can not heal either which is a great problem.

    I will add more questions if i happen to remember a specific problem . Thanks for help in advance.
    First of all: I'm nowhere near to being an arena-god, or anything alike, but I have some experience in PvP and most of your problems are things that kinda require just a few general tips, imo.
    It might be that everything written here is pointless and you know and do that already, in that case just ignore my post. :P


    1.
    You can fear warriors, but it's a but tricky.
    As you play with a druid, if I read that correctly, ask him to dispell the Berserk Rage buff, which renders him fear immune, then fear him. He'll either need to trinket or will be stuck with the fear.
    Just try to not fear until he used Berserk Rage and it ran off or was dispelled.
    Also, if you're up against warriors, maybe try the tentacle root, if fear is too troublesome.

    The reflect thing isn't really hard to do for him, try casted CC only when the warrior in the enemy team is already hard CC'd (fear, stun, mc, etc. not roots or so), if you're worried about that.


    2.
    Yes, slows suck, try to combine Phantasm with another CC to get the enemies off your arse and gain some distance without any slows hindering you.
    If that worked, maybe also try to los the enemies, if you need some time for yourself to heal and stuff.
    Work with your partner, let him slow / stun / Cyclone / Typhoon them so you can get some space for yourself. ;>


    3.
    Try dispelling the Hand of Freedom if you want to root / slow him, or try to Cyclone him.
    In general, if he pops wings, do everything you can to get him away from you. Pallys with cds popped are scary. Pallys without cds a lot less.
    If he bubbles, just mass dispell and let your mate cc him as soon as the bubble's popped, if necessary.


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    Well...sucks to be you? ^^
    Against bursty teams: Try to put down a glyphed Lightwell preemptively and just try to CC the enemy when they use their damage cooldowns, or dispell them, if possible.
    Your partner/s also should be there to help you through such situations. Even ferals / owls can heal and it might just be enough to give you the needed room to breath again and get back in controll of the match.
    If you're having problems with certain combos, try to switch a few talents maybe, it might do the trick.
    It could also have been that they simply outgeared you by a huge lot, in such cases you often can't really do much, but get bursted into oblivion. ^^


    5.
    PvP healing, and especially in arena, can be reeaaallly mana consuming.
    You could try and see how much mana one shadow fiend gives you roughly and use it as soon as you're low enough to not cap your mana with it's regen. (e.g. if it regs 20%, use it at ~80% remaining mana)
    I personally prefer From Darkness, Comes Light as free instant Flash Heals are pretty usefull, and cheaper, faster Greater Heals are even more, but to each their own. ;D

    As for drinks: there used to be water at level 70, but I don't think there's anything to regen with, besides mage food, nowadays. So either get a mage on your team, if often have the time to drink and manaproblems, or try to get every last point of spirit you can manage to get. (within reasonable levels ^^)

    And if the enemies aren't focusing you and you're not in the need of healing your friend instantly to 100%, try not to wait till the need occurs, but just spam Heal for a while, as it costs as good as no mana, once you've got a decent manaregen.


    6.
    I have that problem myself as well, but mostly because our arena team is pretty silly and I get always focused. ^^
    If you have the time to deal some damage you should really try to, as it shouldn't really matter if they interupt you while healing or dealing damage.
    If you're both at rather full hp, you should be able to do some damage without one interupt being deadly. Else just wait until it's save enough or you / your mate have the cooldowns to save your asses, should an interupt be as deadly as you think it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoron View Post
    First of all: I'm nowhere near to being an arena-god, or anything alike, but I have some experience in PvP and most of your problems are things that kinda require just a few general tips, imo.
    It might be that everything written here is pointless and you know and do that already, in that case just ignore my post. :P


    1. ask him to dispell the Berserk Rage buff.


    3. Try dispelling the Hand of Freedom if you want to root / slow him


    4.
    Well...sucks to be you? ^^
    Against bursty teams: Try to put down a glyphed Lightwell preemptively and just try to CC the enemy when they use their damage cooldowns, or dispell them, if possible.
    Your partner/s also should be there to help you through such situations. Even ferals / owls can heal and it might just be enough to give you the needed room to breath again and get back in controll of the match.
    If you're having problems with certain combos, try to switch a few talents maybe, it might do the trick.
    It could also have been that they simply outgeared you by a huge lot, in such cases you often can't really do much, but get bursted into oblivion. ^^
    1st advice is really good thanks. i didnt know that much about druid utilities.

    for 3rd as i said. i didnt even have time to dispel anything but shocks etc. from myself couldnt waste globals for that as you can imagine.

    4 talent change seems logical but i dont want to sacrifice inner focus neither pennance nor the %10 reduction in disc so it is a bit complex.

    i generally do as you say thanks for helping. I dont like whining but i wanted to ask if it is only me who is having difficulties. Shammies and droods seem to heal with ease in almost every situation. They can dispel and avoid fear, druid should dispel any root from himself so he can use dispel to others, shammy has 2x offensive dispel. we dont have any special utility like mana burn no longer. i think i'm going to stick to holy untill 5.1 and maybe focused will can be better for surviving.

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    The perception seems to be that Priests in arenas (as healers) are pretty bad. I haven't tried it myself, but it does seem like the others healers (except maybe Monks) have a much easier time in arenas than priests do. It could be your gear, not sure what that is looking like for you.

    In Arena's in general if your team isn't peeling them off you properly, then you will die. Most of the time people won't instantly focus a healer, unless they see that your team isn't peeling when they apply pressure. This could be an issue for you as well.

    Have you tried just going shadow? It may seem a little silly, but if you are playing with a Druid who can also help heal, it could be enough to keep everyone up with two off healers instead of a dedicated healer. As that is something that the devs have said is a concern of theirs. But until it gets nerfed, you might as well abuse it. Shadow is much stronger in Arena than holy or disc. (Disc used to be really strong, but the whole shields thing just doesn't seem to be cutting it right now, not sure whats up there.)

    Holy has been pretty bad in arenas for a while now, and since it seems like disc sucks as well, you could be shit out of luck depending on your MMR.

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    with set4 bonus holy seems to be better than disc in arena. at least in my experience. i know i can go shadow but i just wanted to try something new and i lvled my priest than i figured that they killed all the fun of being a priest. i went in some arena with my warrior who has 8 contender piece and wiped some guyz from earth with storm bolt and shockwave, felt good problem is : do you think priest will be viable again in some patches as healer or should i just go play warrior or shadow maybe

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    Please have a look at the holy priest pvp guide I posted here recently
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5847925430

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