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    Celestial Alignment - Wrath vs Starfire?

    I'm under the impression that when you have 15s of Incarnation/NV up, and pop CE you continue spamming Starfire?......just because watching a lot of videos I see a LOT of Balance Druids (On heroic bosses too, not terrible moonkins!) spamming Wrath with these CDs up!

    It's bugging me as i think I'm missing something, or am I?

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    Starfire. No question.

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    the only time you would even consider casting a wrath is if you had to move during your cooldowns and have less than 2.5(ish depending on haste) seconds left for a starfire as i believe if starfire ends after your cooldowns it doesnt get the damage boost

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    Quote Originally Posted by crunk View Post
    the only time you would even consider casting a wrath is if you had to move during your cooldowns and have less than 2.5(ish depending on haste) seconds left for a starfire as i believe if starfire ends after your cooldowns it doesnt get the damage boost
    Idd. Stats snapshot happens at cast's end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorim View Post
    I see a LOT of Balance Druids (On heroic bosses too, not terrible moonkins!) spamming Wrath with these CDs up!
    Funny, because then they are terrible, one does not cast Wrath during Celestial Alignment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunfyre View Post
    Starfire. No question.

    ^this. also makes the pre-lunar opener streamlined

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    Took less than 2 minutes, and leaves no room for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teye View Post


    Took less than 2 minutes, and leaves no room for discussion.
    And yet you still had to be rude about an innocent question =D

    Ty the rest of you. I knew it was SF, just wondering if I was missing anything from watching the other Druids videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crunk View Post
    the only time you would even consider casting a wrath is if you had to move during your cooldowns and have less than 2.5(ish depending on haste) seconds left for a starfire as i believe if starfire ends after your cooldowns it doesnt get the damage boost
    In that situation, I have been actually spamming MF a couple times instead of casting wrath. I mostly do it so that the timing isn't so tight for moving around.

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    May I ask why starfire if it has an increased cast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mana23 View Post
    May I ask why starfire if it has an increased cast?
    Because the damage more than justifies the cast time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mana23 View Post
    May I ask why starfire if it has an increased cast?
    1 starfire > 2 wraths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teye View Post


    Took less than 2 minutes, and leaves no room for discussion.
    What site did you do that in? I don't seem to know\recognize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    What site did you do that in? I don't seem to know\recognize it.
    Thats simulationcraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Thats simulationcraft.
    Thanks for the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mana23 View Post
    May I ask why starfire if it has an increased cast?
    Because Wrath does less damage per cast time than Starfire outside of Solar Eclipse. The only reason we cast it outside solar at all is to move the bar towards Lunar.

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