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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Baalb View Post
    Will you people stop with this? This game has two parts, pvp and pve, stop viewing things only from the perspective that is interesting to you. This change would have destroyed Fire in PvE and I am not overreacting. The change was horrible.
    As GC said, the change to for Pyroblast had a MINIMAL effect on PvE. But it's okay, Frost will still pull better numbers than Fire with an easier rotation to boot.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Tmicrochip View Post
    Still no shaman changes... :-(
    Yeah, I am surprised by the lack of changes to Elemental. Raidbots currently has us listed 15th place out of 20 specs (25 Normal - All Parses) and 16th place out of 19 specs (25 Heroic - All Parses). Elemental is very weak right now overall. Thank God for Stormlash Totem. >.>

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    LOVE the BMAH invite only feature for Brawler's Guild.

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    So like yeah, only rich soloists can compete in the only "official" feature that's ever come out for soloists (old raids etc. is a byproduct of stat inflation) since all of the soloist stuff (10-15 levels per zone, orange/red quests, real elites etc.) was removed from the game...maybe the Brawler's Guild is about financial brawling rather than actual brawling.
    Last edited by Staticus; 2012-11-03 at 10:57 PM.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggasson View Post
    Annnnnd the whining continues! GJ WoW community .

    Also i find it funny how people have changed over the years, before they could actually consider working for something nice. Now they just want it for free without putting any time or effort into getting it.
    Oh right I forgot that gaining entrance to the Brawler's Guild through cash is the big challenging achievement to strive for, not the actual fights within the Guild

  6. #106
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    I love it, gate access by putting stuff on the BMAH. its a huge step forward in game design.

    lets apply it to hc mode raid access, arena seasons and even to challenge modes. maybe even max level professions could require a special invite from the secret order of profession trainers. SO many possibilities......and all of them as fucking stupid as this one from Bliz.

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    Paying gold in BMAH is not effort/skill or anything wise, except that you played the AH for quite some time. Making the gating gold dependent makes 0 sense. They should have made an huge solo quest chain to gain entrance, problem solved. Now an Ah player or top raiding guild will buy BMAH invites (yes, bet the first few ones will be going for the same rich person/guild in order to keep the monopoly going for a bit), sell for huge amounts of gold (that some people can't afford) or the guild that get it will keep to themselves until realm firsts are done and then sell it.
    For people that must win serious paychecks in Blizz, their brainstorm is quite weak.
    Last edited by Eclypse; 2012-11-04 at 01:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wunhunglo View Post
    Yeah, I am surprised by the lack of changes to Elemental. Raidbots currently has us listed 15th place out of 20 specs (25 Normal - All Parses) and 16th place out of 19 specs (25 Heroic - All Parses). Elemental is very weak right now overall. Thank God for Stormlash Totem. >.>
    You know that there will ALWAYS be a 19th place right ? Someone has to be there, and it's shaman actually.

    Enh is pretty strong now, at leat shaman who want min/maxing can change spec. Other classe can't.

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    the thing is, it's possible to have a 19th place with numbers being closer than they are now

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    Glad to see such an extensive list of changes for dks.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by link_991 View Post
    Oh right I forgot that gaining entrance to the Brawler's Guild through cash is the big challenging achievement to strive for, not the actual fights within the Guild
    You don't even know if you have to actually pay large amount of gold to get invited stupid! Have it ever crossed your mind, or everyone elses for that matter that maybe it is like the dark brotherhood in skyrim? That you have to reach a point in your career (aka do quests) that will enable you to enter the brotherhood? But no of course not, you just jumped the "omg i need to pay shit!!!" bandwagon like every other idiot here.

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    "Entry into the brawler’s guild is by invitation only. Invitations can be found on the black market auction house or by invitation from somebody within the guild." Have it crossed everyones mind that it may be the BMAH NPC who gives the quest?? No of course not, just jump the bandwagon of crying like everyone else.

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrathius View Post
    Okay, maybe Blood is over the top when you're fighting bad players who stand next to you feeding you Death Strikes, and maybe that needs to be fixed, but is killing Blood as a viable flag carrier in RBGs because bads don't know how to fight us really the answer?
    They did the same back in Cata by removing Vengeance from PvP. Same old same old.

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  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggasson View Post
    You don't even know if you have to actually pay large amount of gold to get invited stupid! Have it ever crossed your mind, or everyone elses for that matter that maybe it is like the dark brotherhood in skyrim? That you have to reach a point in your career (aka do quests) that will enable you to enter the brotherhood? But no of course not, you just jumped the "omg i need to pay shit!!!" bandwagon like every other idiot here.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-04 at 05:47 AM ----------

    "Entry into the brawler’s guild is by invitation only. Invitations can be found on the black market auction house or by invitation from somebody within the guild." Have it crossed everyones mind that it may be the BMAH NPC who gives the quest?? No of course not, just jump the bandwagon of crying like everyone else.
    It says "on the BMAH," not "at the Tavern in the Mists," pretty obviously means buying it.
    What "or by invitation from somebody within the guild" means is anyone's guess. Could be quest chain, could be rep, could be invites from other players that get price gouged. But apparently you know exactly what it is and everyone else is an idiot

  14. #114
    Well, if blizz wants to get some gold out of the market system then it would be pretty smart to sell 1 or 2 invitations per day on the black market...and allow those players in the brawlers guild to invite 1 other per day(or even week). That way it won't need long till everyone is invited...but they will get a lot of gold for the first few invitations on the black market. It would piss off players for the first 3 or 4 weeks tho.

  15. #115
    Renewing mist now traveling to 2 targets instead of 3, thanks blizzard for making MW useless in 25 man. We have sub-par raid CDs, we had nice raid healing to compensate, now we are left with nothing. Does blizzard even know how long it takes to 'build-up' our raid healing applying RM and keeping it on at least 8 ppl? Pls slightly nerf uplift if you want but for 25m purposes leave RM disseminate to 3 ppl OR give us another raid healing tool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColbaneX View Post
    As GC said, the change to for Pyroblast had a MINIMAL effect on PvE. But it's okay, Frost will still pull better numbers than Fire with an easier rotation to boot.
    Frost and Fire are pretty much equal in damage, which is good, because diversity is always good.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by link_991 View Post
    Oh right I forgot that gaining entrance to the Brawler's Guild through cash is the big challenging achievement to strive for, not the actual fights within the Guild
    I chuckled.
    Sorry, but the arguments of people defending this model are so stupid.
    Please Blizzard, Diablo 3 was ruined by this EA philosophy. Don't let it infiltrate WoW.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Wunhunglo View Post
    Yeah, I am surprised by the lack of changes to Elemental. Raidbots currently has us listed 15th place out of 20 specs (25 Normal - All Parses) and 16th place out of 19 specs (25 Heroic - All Parses). Elemental is very weak right now overall. Thank God for Stormlash Totem. >.>
    But, uh, what's the spread between 1st and 16th? I mean, SOMEONE has to be first and last, and they all have to be spread somewhere. if the difference is 1k, who cares except for idiots? If the spread is 20k, then I would agree,

    but just listing your 'place' isn't enough.

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    I personally reckon its a trap,i reckon blizz is going to monitor all these rich folk that get into the brawlers guild and ban them for buying gold or use them as further bait to catch the gold sellers out for good.

  20. #120
    Oh okay, that's fine blizz nerf mistweavers.

    /rude

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