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  1. #161
    You know, this "0% clear FoS" is mentioned a lot - but do people really expect this will happen right after nerfs hit? Logically, guilds will finish their progress first, using whatever handicap they can, gear themselves to full and then go for 0% just before next patch goes live - assuming it obsoletes the achievement, that is. As such, I'm expecting that it's role is vastly overestimated and it won't be nearly as prestigious as some think.

    Well, either way, Blizzard hasn't even finished releasing all normal mode content. It would be absurd to expect global nerfs that soon. That's what specific hotfixes are for, like nerfing Jasper Chains in 10 man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakhath View Post
    It's way too early for this nonsense.
    I mean seriously, a month in and people are asking for a nerf? If you're a casual player, enjoy LFR, run HC (dungeons) and enjoy progress on Normal MV etc. Just because you're casual doesn't mean you should get to 'skip' progression thinking that normal should just be handed to you, imo. 4 months down the line... yeah why not, 1 month after release and calls for a nerf, come on... are you serious?

  3. #163
    Dear god. I seriously hope they don't do this. Maybe when the new tier is released but not now when we are in the middle of progressing. If they start doing this and everything becomes faceroll I will be playing something else.

  4. #164
    I would say very late December or early January would be the absolute soonest.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    I pay the same sub as you, what a vry elitist attitude u hav. Some peepl hav a job and deserve to see the content but not on LFr becaus thats 2 ez tbh.
    You also talk and type like that on your 'job'?

    I only raid 3 times a week, I just don't suck at it.

  6. #166
    if they go for the DS nerf model i would get really pissed. That would mean 5% coming in 4 weeks. I hope they wait until new year at least.

    People who claim "buff is optional" are more delusional than those who say "LFR, Gems, Enchants, Flasks and buff food is not mandatory"

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilian View Post
    Dear god. I seriously hope they don't do this. Maybe when the new tier is released but not now when we are in the middle of progressing. If they start doing this and everything becomes faceroll I will be playing something else.
    Ppl need to stop with the "I hope they dont ever do that" atitude cause blizz hintted they probably would do it at some point and aftewards those feat of strenght became known and its pretty much guaranteed now the debufs will happen, its just a matter of when, otherwise the FoS are pointless... we even know how the debufs will be called from the FoS, Dampening Field on Mogu Vaults, Klaxxi Resonance on HoF and Ritual Purification on ToES.

    From what some ppl said a few posts back the debufd have even been datamined already so they release the game with this implement already, they wont even have to waste much time to turn it on whenever they want.

    My guess is itll be going off on a per raid basis and not afecting the whole tier at once, we might see Mogu Vaults debufed in 1 month but the 2 other raids only later. I think itll take longer tough even for Mogu Vaults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuckas View Post
    There's always been an option to turn off the buff if you want to do it without.
    You dont get it!
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  9. #169
    Hopefully with TotES LFR They won't need to nerf MSV Since that gear should help you enough.

    But i won't raid so w/e

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    To the people saying you can simply turn off the buff, it doesn't work like that with people. When you give a child the option to have either candy or vegetables, of course most kids will choose candy instead of vegetables. Might be a stupid comparison. But it's basically the same.

    I don't get why Blizz wants to be a babysitter for people. If you can't do the normal mode MSV you shouldn't even be trying out raiding yet. You gotta practise, get better gear, use potions and try to be optimal. I doubt any of the people wanting those buffs even use potions to be optimal. Or even use Healthstones -.-

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    I doubt they will nerf it, they'll nerf it when 5.2 hits (next raid content)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    People who claim "buff is optional" are more delusional than those who say "LFR, Gems, Enchants, Flasks and buff food is not mandatory"
    It is optional, it's just that you're being forced to choose between the race and the prestige of clearing it at 0%, whereas you haven't had to in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makarena View Post
    there will be a nerf guaranteed due to this achivment
    Which is ultimately a completely worthless achievement.

    Oh hey, let's farm on "derp nerf mode" and then go in with BiS gear and clear it!

    Blizzard should ONLY nerf content immediately after a new tier gets released, period. Let the baddies that can't handle normal mode lag behind the release of brand new content.

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  15. #175
    In two weeks, the last raid opens. I'd say a month after that and they'll start nerfing MSV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackblade View Post
    In two weeks, the last raid opens. I'd say a month after that and they'll start nerfing MSV.
    I'm thinking along the same lines. Once all content is out, they'll wait a few weeks and start with MSV and then monthly intervals hit raids as they came out. So MSV would get hit first, then HoF and finally Terrace. I don't think they would/should give them 5% at the same time due to one raid would be out farrrrr longer than the other two. The nerfs will happen, it was in the MoP beta files, when is anyones guess.
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  17. #177
    It's inevitable that T14 will see nerfs; probably of the DS style. I hope Blizzard learned their lesson this time and don't nerf too quickly.

  18. #178
    To everyone whining for the buff to come, and saying you can just turn it off, you can also just run without whining about the buff. It might help if you were to, I dunno, get better at the game instead of relying on blizzard to get better for you. If you are crying for nerfs this soon after release, please go to your nearest window and just do the world a favor and jump.

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Then why is the wording of the achievement "inactive or disabled"?
    It still has to be done when the tier is current. Once T15 is here, they're Feats of Strength.

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by cherb View Post
    To everyone whining for the buff to come, and saying you can just turn it off, you can also just run without whining about the buff. It might help if you were to, I dunno, get better at the game instead of relying on blizzard to get better for you. If you are crying for nerfs this soon after release, please go to your nearest window and just do the world a favor and jump.
    That's the problem, though. Why should they improve when nerfs are inevitable? Blizzard will nerf content down to the skill level of people who can't even down Stone Guard on Normal, so most people won't see an incentive to improve as Blizzard will tailor the content to them.

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