Declined to a guild because of...

[Moradim]

people need to realize that ret doesnt just bring damage, you bring another devo aura, can self heal yourself if shit hits the fan, bop/sac people who need it, lay on hands, and the list goes on.

name another melee spec that offers as much utility as that to the raid. also, the damage is far from bad, it's actually quite strong with gear. I think that GM just has a bad perception about the class, as far as tanks go, you offer strong self-survivability, and cooldowns. I cant see why you'd be turned down for being a paladin tank.

[Yau]

Ret DPS is in a decent spot (not at the bottom, not at the top). Holy is very strong. Paladin tanking is just fine. Sounds like somebody didn't want any loot competition for the other raids. I wouldn't sweat it.

[Bonkura]

For 10-man it goes like this atm IMO

Tanks: Monk > Pala = Warr > Druid = DK

Melee DPS: Arms/Fury = Feral = DK > Ret = Rogue = Monk (Rogue goes up at better fights)

Healer: Monk = Pala > Shaman = Druid > Priest


If that guild thinks Prot Palas are not good now then you're better off without them.

name another melee spec that offers as much utility as that to the raid. also, the damage is far from bad, it's actually quite strong with gear. I think that GM just has a bad perception about the class, as far as tanks go, you offer strong self-survivability, and cooldowns. I cant see why you'd be turned down for being a paladin tank.

Doesnt matter for 10-man since you'd bring Spriest and Boomkin before Ret and just go with 1 melee which wouldnt be a Ret.

[BlackZero]

Yes rets suck. Thats why vodka and most top US guilds are using two right now. Terrible class

I was wondering how many posts Id have to scroll through before I saw something like this.

[Zabyt]

For 10-man it goes like this atm IMO

Tanks: Monk > Pala = Warr > Druid = DK

Melee DPS: Arms/Fury = Feral = DK > Ret = Rogue = Monk (Rogue goes up at better fights)

Healer: Monk = Pala > Shaman = Druid > Priest


If that guild thinks Prot Palas are not good now then you're better off without them.


Doesnt matter for 10-man since you'd bring Spriest and Boomkin before Ret and just go with 1 melee which wouldnt be a Ret.

Seeing this makes me cringe, such a difference compared to 25man where all classes are pretty wanted and in good spots right now.
10m setup just seems a bit too small with all the specs we have ingame now.Just pick a cheese setup and it's gg.

[Punks]

are on par with dks in selfhealing,

Not even close.

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For 10-man it goes like this atm IMO

Tanks: Monk > Pala = Warr > Druid = DK

So wrong.

Melee DPS: Arms/Fury = Feral = DK > Ret = Rogue = Monk (Rogue goes up at better fights)

Assas. Rogues are the strongest behind wars. and a good rogue can far surpass any spe war.

Healer: Monk = Pala > Shaman = Druid > Priest

Again wrong. Druids are extremelly strong in Raids atm

If that guild thinks Prot Palas are not good now then you're better off without them.

Did you even read his post? Sigh..I can make up shit too.


Monks are the best warlocks. Its true!! Because I said so!



Hope no one took him seriously.

[Bonkura]

Not even close.

---------- Post added 2012-11-04 at 09:06 PM ----------


So wrong.

Assas. Rogues are the strongest behind wars. and a good rogue can far surpass any spe war.

Again wrong. Druids are extremelly strong in Raids atm


Did you even read his post? Sigh..I can make up shit too.


Monks are the best warlocks. Its true!! Because I said so!



Hope no one took him seriously.

Hope you're trolling.

Do not post simply to call another user a troll. - Malthanis

[matheney2k]

Hope you're trolling.

For the OP's sake. I hope he's not.

[blackdon]

i`m been doing gjal the spiritbinder or whats his name last night helping out a guild lacking a offtank . Their main was warr with about 10 itmlevels lower than me . we did almost identical dps , took about the same damage but my offhealing from soi was insane, so from my pow we are above warr tanks

[Superlolz]

i`m been doing gjal the spiritbinder or whats his name last night helping out a guild lacking a offtank . Their main was warr with about 10 itmlevels lower than me . we did almost identical dps , took about the same damage but my offhealing from soi was insane, so from my pow we are above warr tanks

Unless you have every player logging Gara'jal (or at least both of you) , you will always have an incomplete parse because of the Spirit Realm mechanic.