Well we could always eliminate dungeon finder, raid finder and cross server battlegrounds too. Server communities were eliminated long ago.
Pvp is exactly what it has always been, imbalanced. You go into and arena and fight if your comp is better than theirs you'll probably win. This isn't new. Or you go out into the world and 1 on 1 pvp in which case blizzard has said for a whole now that they don't balance 1v1. My guess? You picked your class because they were op now they're not and you're pouting.
Also it should be noted that every single expansion has been the worst expansion ever until the next expansion comes out, then you'll get nostalgic for the very things you currently say you hate.
Once more, like in every other point you've made about Dailies, you don't have to do them.
See, here's the the system works my friend:
Casuals can raid once a week or whenever they want, and do LFR every week to get gear. They don't have to do Dailies. They can do them whenever they want like everyone else.
And then so forth can do whatever they want more often.
Somehow everyone keep forgetting that Dailies are optional.
Oh, you want more and better gear but don't wanna do dailies? Then you raid.
Oh, you want more and better gear but don't raid? Do LFR or Dailies.
Oh, you don't want to do either? Stick with Heroics and buy epics to get yourself geared and sit there and look pretty.
No one is forcing you to do anything. The point system is there for people who want to buy that extra gear, and as of 5.1, upgrade the iLevel of their gear.
I fail to see after multiple threads we're still on this topic.
Can people please use more logic?
(I got dragged back in because the sheer amount of illogical conclusions I've read just tugged me back in. Couldn't stand it.)
I think my positions are entirely reasonable and I've had many people tell me this as well. However were back to cataclysm again were anything reasonable but critical is shouted down immediately. Can we please use more tact?
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Also, the cap is 1000, correct? You get 80 per valor now a day, right? Okay, so you keep running it and now you get 60 valor.
Oh, and Scenarios are what, 40 or 50 and get reverted to 30? They last a total of 10 minutes. You chain those and in a few or even a couple hours..you're done.
The whole reason people complain about this system is because they feel they HAVE to do this system, when they don't.
It's like seeing any new features in an Expansion. For some reason every single person feels they are obligated to do them.
Trust me, I was the same way.....then I took a break from Dailies.
I only bought 2 pieces of Rep Gear in total and it was from the Golden Lotus. I just raid and do LFR whenever I feel like it now for gear, or even buy gear with Gold if I really need it.
Running LFR for a total of 25 minutes can't fit their schedule?
Running a 10-20 minute Heroic can't fit their schedule?
Running a 10 minute Scenario can't fit their schedule?
Answer to number 2.
Did you forget about this when you first started World of Warcraft up?
"1 in 4 Americans are skeptical on climate change...who gives a shit? That doesn't matter. You don't need other people's opinions on a fact. You may as well have a poll asking: Which number is bigger? 5 or 15? Do Owls exist? Are there hats?"
You guys asked for World PVP and ganking back, you got it. Maybe the community shouldn't ask Blizzard for stuff, then complain about it when they get it, eh?
And yes, I agree PVP is badly balanced..but it always has been.
Explain to me how you'd Balance PVP, or anyone here, and we'll talk.
The reason people are complaining has little to do with the fact that they have to (although that's how it's expressed) and has everything with how this game is structured as a giant skinner box. Wether or not they have to is irrelevant really. I don't have to do anything in the game and never did. Nothing was ever forced or mandatory. No you feel you have to because THAT IS WHERE THE REWARD IS. The current system just frustrates them because they see the gear and they want the gear so they go full speed ahead to get the gear. Let's not pretend this isn't the desired behavior on the part of Blizzard though. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they put that gear on the rep vendor.
LFR both halves are much longer than 25 minutes, I've had some take up to an hour.
20 minute heroic gets them nowhere without dailies
10 minute scenario gets you nowhere without dailies
Both the above have ILVL limits of 463 and even the most casual of casual players I know are almost all done with those two particular avenues. They are missing maybe one or two pieces and they que for those dungeons and then leave when it doesn't drop their loot. It is not in any way shape or form a long term option for even casual players who like to progress.
2) Don't play on a pvp realm then, I actually like CRZ because it brought world pvp back.
3) Pvp is always a disaster a the beginning of an expansion.
Truth is the expansion isn't bad so far. It is much better than Cata but not as good as WotLK and not near as good as BC.
Edit: Ill admit there is a bit more in MOP to do but not by much and in the end your siting in Org wanting for the Q to pop.
2. Thats what you get if you play on a pvp realm.
3. PvP is ok, not perfect but now bad either.
I dont see how so many can keep playing and QQ all the damn time.
If you dont like the game just quit, its not harder thern that.
Since WHEN do you need to do Factions?
It was a godsend Blizzard took out the fact you needed to get a certain level of Rep with a faction to get an Enchant for your Helm and Shoulders.
Do. The. Raids.
Buy. Gear. With. Gold.
Work for it.
You guys didn't want to be able to get Epics for free?
Whelp, here's the solution.
The entire reason I defend Blizzard to my last breath at this point is because MOST of the community asked for all of this.
Harder to get Epics? Done with harder raids and gating with factions.
More content? Done with the copious amount of extra features this Xpack.
Harder raids? Already covered, but done.
All of this stuff people have asked for and we still have bitching about it. It's mind boggling.