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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    The US politics are just as odd as Japan's TV shows, from my PoV of course (no offense meant).

    That's how it feels when I read some of these political discussions here on MMO.
    Yeah, US politics are odd to anyone who doesn't live here, and sometimes they're odd to anyone who does.

    Fact is, the Presidential election in the end comes down to the respective people, and one's already proven he won't work with Congress, and also is known for letting his campaign accuse people of racism simply for opposing his views. So, the other guy can't be any worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    My question is what makes European / the rest of the world think they know more about American politics than we who live in America do?
    There's an inherent advantage of objectivity to being an observer on the outside. Considering, objectively, how poor your media is and how it skews right-wing on an international scale, foreigners also have the advantage of a more mature, analytical and sophisticated media to perceive these events through too.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by mavfin View Post
    Yeah, US politics are odd to anyone who doesn't live here, and sometimes they're odd to anyone who does.

    Fact is, the Presidential election in the end comes down to the respective people, and one's already proven he won't work with Congress, and also is known for letting his campaign accuse people of racism simply for opposing his views. So, the other guy can't be any worse.
    A truly unbiased and bipartisan opinion of the situation.

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  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    I am offended by people thinking that many Americans are stupid, brainwashed sheep that blindly follow whatever candidate they agree with the most. It's even more offensive that some of these people are Americans themselves.
    I am American and am not offended because a hell of a lot of people are blind sheep following either the blue button or red button to pick a President. Euros don't have shit to stand on when it comes to criticizing us.

    I am tired of my portfolio taking a hit because you guys cry about taxes and do not want to make investments in infrastructure. Thanks to dumb ass Euro politicians thinking Austerity was a good answer to a Recession we are all screwed with a projected 5 year recession in the Europe and massive debt.
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  5. #205
    Simple, people vote for their personal gain, while it's blurry who would provide more for Americans between Obama and Romney, to the rest of the world Obama is a clear winner in terms of the whole planet, Romney's managed to annoy some close relationships with other regions and he's not even president yet.
    One cannot simply quit wow his way into Mordor.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Felfury View Post
    Simple, people vote for their personal gain, while it's blurry who would provide more for Americans between Obama and Romney, to the rest of the world Obama is a clear winner in terms of the whole planet, Romney's managed to annoy some close relationships with other regions and he's not even president yet.
    Also, other countries figure Obama's more likely to bow to them than Romney, and they all want a weak American President.

    So, that's one way in which what 'everyone else' wants doesn't really make sense for the country they're trying to make the choice for.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by mavfin View Post
    Also, other countries figure Obama's more likely to bow to them than Romney, and they all want a weak American President.

    So, that's one way in which what 'everyone else' wants doesn't really make sense for the country they're trying to make the choice for.
    We just don't want an American president that will declare China a "currency manipulator" and start another war in the Middle East in his first week of office as it will impact heavily on us here.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by mavfin View Post
    Also, other countries figure Obama's more likely to bow to them than Romney, and they all want a weak American President.

    So, that's one way in which what 'everyone else' wants doesn't really make sense for the country they're trying to make the choice for.
    Obama has been consistently violating international law bombing the ever loving shit out of whoever he feels like. Then add in the Osama raid was a violation of god knows how many EU, UN, and international treaties.

    You do realize he risked nuclear war with Pakistan to put a bullet in Osamas head right?

    By far the biggest bullshit argument Repubs have tried in the past 4 years. Stick with the birth certificate thing because it sounds less crazy, then saying Obama has been weak on foreign policy.
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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangfei View Post
    There's an inherent advantage of objectivity to being an observer on the outside. Considering, objectively, how poor your media is and how it skews right-wing on an international scale, foreigners also have the advantage of a more mature, analytical and sophisticated media to perceive these events through too.
    This is the kind of statement that bugs me. And maybe you meant it innocently, but by saying things such as more mature and sophisticated, you're implying that Americans are neither of these. I agree our media is pretty much a joke, but I don't need to look at channels like CNN to know what's going on in this country because I live here. I have family members in every corner of the country. Just by looking around me I can get a good pulse on the American economy. I can browse multitudes of local TV stations and read multiple newspapers that give me the same story from different perspectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    This is the kind of statement that bugs me. And maybe you meant it innocently, but by saying things such as more mature and sophisticated, you're implying that Americans are neither of these. I agree our media is pretty much a joke, but I don't need to look at channels like CNN to know what's going on in this country because I live here. I have family members in every corner of the country. Just by looking around me I can get a good pulse on the American economy. I can browse multitudes of local TV stations and read multiple newspapers that give me the same story from different perspectives.
    I never said the people aren't mature and innocent, I said your media isn't.

    And I also live in America but follow my own country's media reporting, which is far more accurate, intelligent and reasonable. Local media here is a joke; to be fair, it is back home too.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

  11. #211
    It is pretty simple. I do not want the Government taking care of me. I want as much freedom as possible and I want the government to stop taking my money. The government is there for common defense and to settle state disputes. I will never vote for a Democrat because they seem to be against all of these ideals. Neo Cons are not much butter but at this point it is the lesser of two evils. Instead of welfare the government should encourage people that can to donate time/money.

    Just because person A makes more than person B does not mean he can give away more money. Even though the internet thinks he should.

    The rest of the worlds opinion does not enter my mind in the slightest when making my decision and they shouldn't.

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by S1ay View Post
    the government should encourage people that can to donate time/money.
    Yeah that'll happen. What will that be called? The "Shit in one hand" bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sills View Post
    Yeah its not the first time Ive seen these kinds of things. Ive seen polls here saying something between 80% to 90% of Canadians would vote for Obama, but this is because we are much more moderate than Americans. Republicans scare the hell out of us in a "how the heck can anyone take that point of view!?!" kind of way. America is really the only country that would elect some of these people.
    Pretty much this. Heck I'm Texan and didn't vote for Romney because he just strikes me as socially regressive.
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  14. #214
    "There is 1 country in the world where 40-50% of the population would vote for someone like Mitt Romney. And that country is the US." <-- i can't remember who said it, but yeah that sums it up.

    Also, previous in this thread someone said that europeans are sent to "camps" to learn how to "think correctly"?

    Ahem.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - if you seriously think this...WOW!

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrs View Post
    "There is 1 country in the world where 40-50% of the population would vote for someone like Mitt Romney. And that country is the US." <-- i can't remember who said it, but yeah that sums it up.

    Also, previous in this thread someone said that europeans are sent to "camps" to learn how to "think correctly"?

    Ahem.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - if you seriously think this...WOW!
    I think by "Camps" they meant "School." Thinking correctly was an analog for "Education."

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Sills View Post
    Yeah its not the first time Ive seen these kinds of things. Ive seen polls here saying something between 80% to 90% of Canadians would vote for Obama, but this is because we are much more moderate than Americans. Republicans scare the hell out of us in a "how the heck can anyone take that point of view!?!" kind of way. America is really the only country that would elect some of these people.
    That is exactly how some of us feel about liberals.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    That is exactly how some of us feel about liberals.
    I fail to see what this has to do with the thread.


    On topic, the reason the world doesn't want republican presidents is because the republican party takes an "Us vs them" mentality to everything regarding diplomacy, even our allies. Why would the world want to vote for a president who clearly states that he doesn't want to work with them?

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    That is exactly how some of us feel about liberals.
    Oh good, it's a mutual thing then. "ZOMG WHY DO THEY THINK THAT". Good to see a lot of logic being thrown into the mix then and not trying to understand someone elses point of view. It's almost better this way, isn't it?

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    We in the US mostly have no clue how to think independently. We also hate change and all wish that 2012 poofed into 1952.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    I think by "Camps" they meant "School." Thinking correctly was an analog for "Education."
    I don't know for other countries, but where i come from it's absolutely forbidden for school to try to influence students in that way. The "political education" is purely informative and is stuff like the different parties history, important elections, etc. If a teacher would say "And i COUNT on you being leftist - it is the only true way for this country, and i will look down on you if you openly say that you have a different opinion" they wouldn't keep their job for a long time after.

    So this is a bit OT but i see this a lot on the internet - people saying "The schools exist to brainwash you...to crush your hopes and dreams....yada yada" but they never say how they do this. Could someone who believes that their true purpose is "molding you into a mindless zombievoter" explain this in greater detail?

    /end OT(rant)

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