Patch 5.1 - New Faction Rewards, Blue Posts, Popular Guild Names, Weekly Roundup

[Keristrasza]

Jeez people are still crying about LFR. They should just add LFR to the lockout that would get these whiney "hardcore" types to shut up.

Except the moment they did, they would get even MORE QQ from the "Hardcores" That an easy option for gearing up was taken away from them. I don't care if someone says "No its what we want!" The noisy few want this, there is still a greater portion that are not being seen on the forums. The second that lock out was added, it would be yet another endless stream of tears.

[Kaeleena]

I gave up running dailies and doing LFR. I log on twice a week to raid for three hours and I'm pretty bored with that already. So much mandatory stuff in this game people are calling optional I'm starting to think my monthly sub should be optional. Might be time to check out Rift's new expansion.

[AusSpyder]

What a shock. The rep bonus bullshit's being turned into yet another gold sinc

[Lumpi]

god no more factions... its to much, the funny thing is which all seem to forget is... if you want you alts to be geared you have to farm those funny dailys all over again huzzaaaaaa and you have to do the dungeons to get the points to buy the rep items, without one the other is worthless. And please dont tell me i only need to get till revered because well that still is a lot of time a day. When did going dungeons ever feel like work? Those Quests feel a lot more like work, hell they are work. Doing the same stuff everyday for payment so you can buy shiny stuff? seems like the definition of work for me...

[kabookiejoez]

that agi trinket = wth

[naZbaZ]

Even more DAILY QUESTS?! cant wait for 5.1

[schippie]

*Sigh*..

I try to say doing dailies is not mandatory.. and probably i wont mind the new daily hub to much.. but constantly forcing us into dailies for gear is really starting to get annoying to me :<
I hate dailies.. why only give us 1 option to get rep for factions why not think of new clever mechanics to obtain rep.. hell i would even trade the worthless justice points for rep :S

[MasterHamster]

Just shows how much tabards completely ruined how we percieve factions. No longer were they something you had to work for if you wanted to reach the higher reputations.
Factions went from being a personal undertaking with rewards to mandatory with say helm enchants in Cata, another reason they were so simple to grind.

Now there's much debate about dailies being mandatory, despite the fact that you don't need to grind any of them in order to progress in raiding, but they offer nice reward for those who choose to.

Heaven forbid players have to decide for themselves when and how they want to rank up MoP factions. Clearly you HAVE to do every single one every single day, right?. Luckily, a majority of players have more control over their gaming.

[spaace]

This probably has been said...

"Another set of items that appeared in Patch 5.1 are these new item level 496 belts and shoes."

These could be the valor upgraded models?

or maybe blizzard is "leveling up" entry level reputation mobs when new content comes out, so it gives people incentive to do dailies after their items become obsolete

[Aeluron Lightsong]

More dailies is fine for me. Better I have dailies to do then none at all.

[ttak82]

"Blizzard is hiding from the fact that there are blockages in current Normal raiding progress. Every boss is tuned for maximum buffs and if you are missing one you will require extra item lvl to make up for it. And that is hard when you only have like 4 raid bosses to work with like is with Elegon. It is an overtuned fight atm for its gear lvl if you dont have all the buffs and the best way to beat that fight is to go LFR and get the 476 weapons on boss AFTER Elegon. The chance of getting 476 weapons in HCs is way to low and you can go for months and months and never get them.

I dare any person to go to World of logs and compare the bosses in Vaults. The success raid for Elegon is under 5% for 10 mans while beeing well over 10-15% for all other bosses - even the last one. That should be very obvious that its overtuned - and the best way to beat him is to get items from 6 bosses in LFR rather than wait once every week for the 4 bosses in normal."

This statement is false; My 10 man raid, certainly not the most progressed 10 man raid, cleared elegon first time in 3 weeks (first week we did not attempt) - and we managed with someone who never saw the fight before; a lot of practice on tactics makes the difference; We then proceeded to kill will of the emperor next week with mostly a ranged group and without 10% melee/ranged attack speed buff (which, i would normally bring with my serpent but i was absent that time); so you do not need all buffs to beat normal mode. IIRC, we even beat 1st 4 bosses w/o 4% physical damage debuff in week 1. All in all, blizzard did a great job with tuning and buff design.

[Alayea]

No way is my enhance shaman wearing that agility trinket. :b

[artem123]

"Blizzard is hiding from the fact that there are blockages in current Normal raiding progress. Every boss is tuned for maximum buffs and if you are missing one you will require extra item lvl to make up for it. And that is hard when you only have like 4 raid bosses to work with like is with Elegon. It is an overtuned fight atm for its gear lvl if you dont have all the buffs and the best way to beat that fight is to go LFR and get the 476 weapons on boss AFTER Elegon. The chance of getting 476 weapons in HCs is way to low and you can go for months and months and never get them.

I dare any person to go to World of logs and compare the bosses in Vaults. The success raid for Elegon is under 5% for 10 mans while beeing well over 10-15% for all other bosses - even the last one. That should be very obvious that its overtuned - and the best way to beat him is to get items from 6 bosses in LFR rather than wait once every week for the 4 bosses in normal."

This statement is false; My 10 man raid, certainly not the most progressed 10 man raid, cleared elegon first time in 3 weeks (first week we did not attempt) - and we managed with someone who never saw the fight before; a lot of practice on tactics makes the difference; We then proceeded to kill will of the emperor next week with mostly a ranged group and without 10% melee/ranged attack speed buff (which, i would normally bring with my serpent but i was absent that time); so you do not need all buffs to beat normal mode. IIRC, we even beat 1st 4 bosses w/o 4% physical damage debuff in week 1. All in all, blizzard did a great job with tuning and buff design.

Normal mode is tuned for LFR MV im pretty sure, or it was tuned based off that ilvl in beta. WoL Doesnt prove overall results, not everyone logs it. its just a requirement of people playing better if you dont have that ilvl, and not slacking off herp derping

[kandalanu]

I live long enought to see that Blizzard actually are telling skilles player that they are not so great like they think and they should just learn to play instead of crying that they have low gear.


Now i can die really happy.

[misthunter]

Silly whiners are silly - EOT. About gear level for MV - heroics + rep gear + some drops from MV was enough for us to do full clear. First boss in HoF went almost one shot as well. So stop whining. And we're not in any case some top guild. Fights as we see it are about coordination. Either tanks or dps rotation on targets (yeah that's hard for idiots who think that toping dps while standing in one place requires skill and makes them Paragon/Vodka/Ensidia level) and in some cases interrupts. Nothing to hard if you're not an IDIOT.
Making WoW easier ( cos it obviously is in so many ways ) made it possible for retards that have problem with reading tacs or even watching movies and understanding them to play and whine about it. It's easy enough as it is even not for hc players. There must be some challenge, if not about it - game would be waste of time.

[ZenX]

god no more factions... its to much, the funny thing is which all seem to forget is... if you want you alts to be geared you have to farm those funny dailys all over again huzzaaaaaa and you have to do the dungeons to get the points to buy the rep items, without one the other is worthless. And please dont tell me i only need to get till revered because well that still is a lot of time a day. When did going dungeons ever feel like work? Those Quests feel a lot more like work, hell they are work. Doing the same stuff everyday for payment so you can buy shiny stuff? seems like the definition of work for me...

People glorified and wanted TBC, they got TBC, huzzaaaaaa.

[Salech]

People glorified and wanted TBC, they got TBC, huzzaaaaaa.

Except this expansion has very little in common with TBC.

[Celltrex]

Except this expansion has very little in common with TBC.

Except that the grinding is extremely similar. Nice to know that my point is proven: it's not that people want the old content back, that's just the nostalgia hiding behind of the fact that they are simply bored of WoW.

---------- Post added 2012-11-05 at 08:26 AM ----------

I gave up running dailies and doing LFR. I log on twice a week to raid for three hours and I'm pretty bored with that already. So much mandatory stuff in this game people are calling optional I'm starting to think my monthly sub should be optional. Might be time to check out Rift's new expansion.

I agree, but threatening with another MMO is funny. Please get out with that garbage. I feel like people are forcefully leaving WoW to another shitty MMO to prove a point that doesn't exist.

[Wycked]

Best..fucking...blue...posts....EVER....lmfao....
people saying reg mode is hard, people cleared 6/6 heroic in less gear than most of you have for reg's. quit crying, get better, if most of you spent half the time learning the boss mechanics/your class as you do talking to people in stormwind/org you'd be doing hm's like the rest of us.

[Kromus]

That blue post section just indicates how out of touch and completely inept the majority of raiding guilds are now in WoW. They expect to be killing bosses in less then 3 tries.

The major downside of having easier content, which there now definitly is, is having a larger portion of the community walking into raiding, with no historical experience, indicating fights and sections are overtuned and the likes.

Any decent raiding group cleared Mogushan within the first week, in dungeon Heroic blues. This has been the same, in every expansion, that your first tier was done in Heroic blues with some epics when possible. The retarded nature of people posting on those forums is unbelievable.