sef24 .. how about those extra FFB's and FB's ? Any idea on those ?
Last edited by jtmzac; 2012-11-07 at 06:25 PM.
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I do agree with you though. If the chance was per hit you would either have so many FoF procs you couldn't use them or the 20% bonus would have to spread out through the 3 hits or something which seems overly complicated.
I'm probably just overthinking it. I do wonder if it's a dps gain to glyph as soon as you hit the cap though? I understand it would be after you were several percent higher haste past the cap but I wonder if there's a point where you can be over the cap but shouldn't glyph? This of course is only relevant when icy veins is active. On it's 3 minute cooldown it's probably not as important but once you get the 4 piece tier 14 bonus it's going to have a fair bit more uptime with it's halved cooldown.
Last edited by jtmzac; 2012-11-07 at 09:17 PM.
34.4%(1.12*1.2), only on the first bolt of the three.
Since glyphed IV doesnt increase the damage of your bomb spells, doesnt speed up your evocates, and doesn't speed up the GCDs for frozen orb and mirror image, it should represent a dps loss if you do any of those things (which you will, bomb at least) during its duration without being considerably past the haste soft cap.
My understanding is that the increased proc chance is to offset the loss of frostbolt haste giving you more procs, not to balance other aspects of the difference.
Haste is never better then crit for frost for some main reasons..
Frostbolt never has to crit to proc anything.
More frostbolts, more procs.
Ice Lance is auto-crit. Works off haste(gcd) and mastery (frozen damage)
(Not 100% sure on this.. but doesn't FFB auto-crit too?)
Edit: to further expand upon this, (all of which again, can be found in Kuni's frost guide} the crit cap for raid bosses is 28%. Shatter doubles the crit chance against frozen targets plus 50%. There it 3% crit suppression on boss targets. So 25% + 25% + 50%= 100%. You take the 3% crit suppression into account and add it to the 25% you need to reach the cap.
This is all not to mention your post seems to contradict itself unless I am reading it wrong since what you posted mentions that crit is supplied via the Shatter talent and therefore less is needed.
Last edited by Methusula; 2012-12-08 at 07:50 PM.