No. Tabards are too easy and too passive. People need to quit asking for free handouts. It only takes a couple weeks to hit exalted if you do them every day. Be glad you didn't do the rep grinds in TBC, or even worse. Vanilla rep grinds *shudders*
So after all the effort to reach reverd you want to give it up?
I've always hated the fact that you could throw on a tabard and grind rep through dungeons. It's lazy, boring and uncreative. An easy way out. Dailies might be boring, but at least they're broken up a bit so it's not always the same ones day after day.
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Wish people would stop making these dam threads. If you went out and did your dailies you would be done with them by now and never have to do them again. I don't like dailies but you see me qq'ing about them? NO i got off my ass did them and now i never have to do them again.
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It kind of annoys me that the dailies require a huge chunk of my time to get to exalted which I just can't spare. I have a job and a life. I can do maybe one or two heroics a few nights a week and then raid twice a week or I can rep grind for my entire wow playing life. Thats not fun. I want to be able to do the dailies but I just don't have the time. I know blizzard wanted to give the game longevity and make it so you have to work for gear but there has to be a better way. Maybe a weekly limit to the amount of rep that can be gained and re-implement the tabard system or perhaps even a new form of rep grinding such as linking your professions to rep (make the faction X amount of materials to help them grow). It just seems slightly unfair to those of us who want to play the game but don't have the time to put in whilst we have a full-time job/other responsibilties. I won't be doing daily rep grinding but instead doing what I enjoy doing. Actually playing through heroics and raids.
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Why do so many people moan about this!? I hated/hate the dailies, I'm exalted with no one. None at all. I'm still able to raid, level my profs, play my alts, gank lowbies, explore, run HCs, sit in SW, all the things I could do before the dailies existed and will still be able to do them once I finally hit exalted with whatever faction I leave until last.
I'd actually like Blizz to introduce a tabard. 'Tabard of the Lazy' they could call it. And it would give 7 rep per end boss kill in a random HC. Then you can grind your little hearts out.
crazy ass idea but..why not have both!: Dailys from neutral > Friendly, Get a tabard that only gives rep til Revered and have a cap of say 3k a day, Dailys > Exalted and you can still do dailys if you so want between Friendly and Revered, bingo everybody wins
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Instead of adding a quick version so you can grind it out in one day or do dailies for weeks add a option in between. Reputation cap (for each faction) that you choose to grind in whatever mannor you want. Most likely it would be best if that cap is weekly and you should be able to cap it by doing lets say 5 days of dailies or a specific amount of heroics while wearing a tabard. Once you hit the cap you have to wait until next week.
I do like the idea of a daily cap as well. If this is going to be a secondary option to doing dailies (which I agree would be nice) it should cap out at the most you could expect to get from any amount of dailies you could do instead. It should only become available for alts and after say Revered with the Rep on 1 character (i.e. could get Revered with Shado-Pan on 1 and Klaxxi on another and you unlock the tabard option for those reps across THAT accounts characters), 1 character should have to run through the ringer of dailies to show you are devoted directly to the cause of those you hope to grind Rep with.
Question though - Would this negate the option to do the dailies or would you still be allowed to do both? I suppose it would be one of those: If you really want to grind out Reps doing both, you're welcome to it, as it would be open to anyone who wanted to clear it and since it's only available after reaching Revered on 1 character i don't see an issue with this as Blizz is already going to make the Rep grind quicker for alts come 5.1 after hitting Revered on 1 character.
It's fine like it is, but I think a BoA rep tabard that only gives rep to revered and can only be bought at exalted would be awesome.
I must be one of the only people who actually doesn't mind dailies too much.
I mean, they make sense. You want someone to like you enough to give you things you want access to, so you do things for them every day and they respect you more and more, in the end they trust and respect you and you get what you want from them. Why should you be able to earn their respect simply because you wore their tabard while you were killing some monsters in a dungeon? You killing monsters in some far off dungeon doesn't benefit them, but if they need some marmots kicked away from their crops and you do it for them, it certainly does.
Yes, they take a long time to finish if you do them all every day, but you don't have to if you don't want to. I also enjoy the fact that I'm getting more gold for completing quests than I would get running a dungeon, as well as getting lesser charms to turn in for extra raid loot rolls.
But on other hand making daily quest is so much more meaningfull since it contains killing monsters and maybe farming some vegetables. Yes so much more sense
I would like it like this:
Login every day to get 2000 rep each day with every faction.
So after a couple of weeks of logining in (and that's exactly all there is required to do) you will hit exalted.
If they gonna gate content - they better come out clean about it. Without stupid dailies.
If they'd make it TBC-style at least it would make sense lore-wise. (Hey, I gain rep with a faction that is actually in battle with these people!) How much sense would it have made by just wearing a tabard and raping mobs in Heroic Botanica if you gained rep for Honor Hold? Sorry, that just dumb! Honor Hold is having their own fight yet you're causing trouble somewhere else in their name. So at least that makes sense!
If you would argue for a specific dungeon linked through lore to a faction system you have my blessing and I would whole-hartedly agree! But just wearing a tabard is a solution for spineless people who want everything handed to them on a plate.
It actually is pure lazyness, besides that your point about dungeon gear becomming pointless is absolutely true. Which also made factions reputation pointless! And with DS they made items drop in the new dungeons that were equivilent to FL normal gear. Making the older tiers of dungeons pointless, but not those. So actually you're point isn't so valid after all! People ran dungeons anyway, besides that, if you had a main during tier 11 you were likely to have all the reps maxed out long before FL (or even troll dungeons) were released. Making dungeons pointless, as you said!
Oh and with the gear from dungeons, with new tiers also those old rep items you mentioned became useless. So the only thing you wanted these reputations for was what exactly? Except shoulder enchant (I'll give you that one)....
So basically, your story is full of nonsense and yes, you want tabards because you're not willing to do something as running dailies for your gear, mounts, etc.
Now, as I said before. If you can come up with a good idea that links lore to killing stuff in dungeons providing you with rep, then sure! I would love that! But why on earth would a faction be happy about you slaughtering people they don't care about?! And yes, this is actually coming from someone who doesn't like dailies at all! But yes, I'd rather have dailies!
To give you an example of things that could provide dungeons with factions would be quests similar to the daily heroic quests. Help faction X by getting item Y from boss/mobs/place Z.
Or cooperating with a faction fighting alongside them in a dungeon
Or just a link lore-wise between the faction and the dungeon
Or repeatable quests you can pick up at the entrance of the dungeon for a certain faction
/many more valid ideas exist
Good luck with thinking about new, interesting idea's. I'm looking forward to your post about a new way to implement reputations into dungeons!
WotLK and Cata tabards just sucked, they provided a way too easy method of getting rep and were much faster than doing dailies. Especially with the introduction of LFD and the implementation of Valor. You'd just queue for randoms and got free rep because you'd generally want to cap out your Valor. Simply put, tabards made reputation meaningless. The BC system is one that I would like (certain dungeons giving specific rep) or a tabard that would block Valor/Justice gains. Both with higher rep gains from dailies and with the Golden Lotus requirement removed for August and Shado-Pan. What I don't want are WotLK and Cata tabards. They give essentially free rep, in which case you might as well remove them.