---------- Post added 2012-11-10 at 04:54 AM ----------
You know, I don't doubt that the game still has potential, nor that there is an audience out there for the game, now, and, hopefully later.. however, when they do and say things like this, it just comes off as.. out of touch, maybe? I'm not sure how to explain it.1. Our game is awesome. People love it and want to play it.
Waste not, want not.
In regards to:
"Our game is awesome. People love it and want to play it."
Could refer to 2-3 people who love it. Not to hate, but it's pretty open ended.
Hickman always rubs me wrong. I can't remember anything that guy said or was responsible for in Warhammer being remotely useful.
Last edited by Drakos; 2012-11-10 at 10:05 AM.
On the subject of the size of the community...is it still about the 400K-500K active players? And how does that compare to other MMOs out there? I've done a bit of looking around for numbers but I'm not an experiecened gamer and don't know all the good info sites.
I think what they mean with "People love it and want to play it." is
1) People go "Damn i really love this game (because X and Y)...but I cant pay 15 dollars month for it because of reasons"
2) They have dedicated cool fanbase. They make art, videos, fanfic..they promote the game..keep blogs..you know, that kinda stuff.
3) Those that play - play a lot of hours. Pretty common in MMOs, sure.
4) The story is awesome - I havent played since what..1.2..but yeah, story is great and I do love it. Cant wait to get back next week..
The argument was, this game is not great because you still haven't fixed bugs from launch, each patch brings more bugs that take too long to fix, there isn't enough content in the game, and I can't justify a subscription to this game. Their answer to this is to not change anything fundamental or underlying that caused the dissatisfaction, but merely to lure people in with a 'free' window that strong arms you into subscribing.
Note that these opinions are not entirely my own. Other than a lack of content, which led to cancelling my subscription, I loved the game. I never had many personal problems with bugs or poor performance, never cared that space was a rail shooter, but it's well documented for others.
Everything is going to have a dedicated fan base. I mean people make emulators for games that are decades old because they love them and want to keep playing them. People still watch wrestling even though the UFC has grown far larger. The point is that they don't need to blow smoke up their supporter's asses, or patronize the people they want back to the game. Unfortunately this writing, along with the entire design of F2P, kinda does just that.
''1. Our game is awesome. People love it and want to play it.''
Lol. Are they really that deluded or just completely stupid? anybody who's ever shown a slight interest in MMO games knows it was a colossal facepalm of a game, who are they trying to kid?
Infracted: Please post constructively or not at all. Just bashing the game doesn't add to the conversation.
Last edited by Forsedar; 2012-11-12 at 04:22 AM.
it's interesting how "butthurt" some people still are over this game... must have touched something.
I wonder when the "no content" people finally stop to pull this out of their shoes as I can't do all content with all my chars during one week so for me there is kinda more than enough content....
So out of that whole statement people just read:
And decided to spend the rest of the thread bitching? What is it you people really want? For game developers to crawl on their bellies and beg forgiveness every time they make a game you decide to pour hate on? Honestly I think the MMO player base is the one with the ego problem.1. Our game is awesome. People love it and want to play it.
Just because I can repeat that infinitely on every alt I want to level is not content. You know by that logic, you should just delete your characters as soon as they hit 50, because hey...the game is so full of content you are free to relevel the same class all over again.
So which game provides enough content to keep you busy for a full week with (apparently) tons of hours to spend while playing only one char. I didn't encounter any such MMO in the last... well since I'm playing MMO's. They should add faction grinding where as each mission gives around 100-150 points and you need like 50k, not sure if this would count as "content" however. As I played long time EQ2... better raiding guilds would spend not more than one day to clear more raidcontent than what we have currently available in swtor, it was mostly the midway guilds which spend weeks to reach the same result.
I can only say that... because I have several alts (as they have different stories and that's what this MMO is mostly about) I already have to choose what I'd prefer to do.
I think that for a normal person with 3-4 hours to spend each day, flashpoint/ dailies/ space and pvp do hold enough to fill out the time. With 1.5 coming we'll have more raidcontent (the same instance but different scripts) and more dailies.
Bottom line is... the longer the game is out, the more content will be available.