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  1. #581
    IMO it is really interesting to see if Empress will be killed first by the best 25M EU guild, the best 25M US guild, or the best 10M guild.

    However, all this blind favoritism/hatred for 10m/25m is so pathetic. Seriously, there is like one 10 man guild working on heroic amber shaper (Paragon), and Blizzard hotfixes the boss.... and you assume that clearly it is cause the boss was too hard, and had nothing to do with the boss being broken......... This isn't your average guild wiping on it and saying it is incredibly difficult on 10 man, it is the best 10 man guild in the world.

    People are so terrified that if somehow Paragon clears 10 man HoF first then their entire world shatters....... if Paragon clears 10 man first doesnt that just prove that HoF was easier on 10 man, and that 25 man truly is the harder difficulty? If you have 10 amazing players who can kill a boss in 5 hours, and you have 25 equally amazing players who need 10 hours on the same boss, one can assume that in general the 25 man difficulty was harder.... and isn't that what all 25 man guilds want?

    God, you come to the forums only to see 25 man guilds whine about how they are the only true difficulty in this game, and then when their difficulty is actually harder than 10 man they whine about it...... don't you want 10 man to be easier so that it proves that 25 man is the true difficulty??????????

    FFS, either way Paragon/Method/BL/Vodka/(insert top world guild here) are amazing guilds with amazing players and dedication, and all you care about is yourself and making sure you play the game the way on the "correct" or "better" difficulty (whatever that even means).

    Just accept the fact that it is impossible to balance both 10 and 25 man, and that some fights will be harder than others, and that Blizzard does a piss poor job of actually testing these fights themselves and some bosses will be extremely buggy on certain difficulties and will need FIXES (not nerfs) before they are killed, and other fights will need NERFS (Vizier) before it is killed.

  2. #582
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Im actually quite impressed you managed to turn your computer on today. Im finished with you and your complete ignorance.
    Im quite impressed how little raiding experience you have yet you feel you are a expert at bosses.

  3. #583
    Quote Originally Posted by steveyboy View Post
    Im quite impressed how little raiding experience you have yet you feel you are a expert at bosses.
    You assume Im in only one guild. Thats cute :]

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    You assume Im in only one guild. Thats cute :]

    Provide proof then to your other guild? If you were in a guild worth mentioning I would assume it would be in your sig instead of that guild you have in your sig atm. how cute.
    Last edited by steveyboy; 2012-11-10 at 02:54 AM.

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    You assume Im in only one guild. Thats cute :]
    Well the assumption is easy to make when it's written in your signature

  6. #586
    One guild I run. One I do not. I advertise for the guild I run.

  7. #587
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    One guild I run. One I do not. I advertise for the guild I run.

    Keep digging yourself a hole mate. I bet you haven't even killed stone dogs normal mode.

  8. #588
    Quote Originally Posted by steveyboy View Post
    Keep digging yourself a hole mate. I bet you haven't even killed stone dogs normal mode.
    You act like its hard.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ourinho/simple

    No more avatars . Not risking anymore bans.

  9. #589
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveDkp View Post
    You act like its hard.
    He's actually implying the complete opposite.



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  10. #590
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenethon View Post
    He's actually implying the complete opposite.
    He is. He is also completely proving that he never even looked at even my alt guild posted in my comment which is 1/6 Heroic. Which, no, isnt great, but this is the guild I use to play with my friends.

  11. #591
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    He is. He is also completely proving that he never even looked at even my alt guild posted in my comment which is 1/6 Heroic. Which, no, isnt great, but this is the guild I use to play with my friends.
    Account-wide achievements would suggest that is the furthest you have progressed this tier.

  12. #592
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakurako View Post
    Account-wide achievements would suggest that is the furthest you have progressed this tier.
    Well I dont know why that is, because Ive killed Feng, Garajal and Elegon as well.

  13. #593
    Quote Originally Posted by steveyboy View Post
    Keep digging yourself a hole mate. I bet you haven't even killed stone dogs normal mode.
    Weren't you the one exhorting people to keep this thread free of distractions earlier? Follow your own advice.

  14. #594
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Well I dont know why that is, because Ive killed Feng, Garajal and Elegon as well.
    So the account wide achieves are wrong and your not lying?

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    I'm happy paragon is still on top, even though it is not by much. I hope they get the first garalon kill and I also hope Blizzard does a better job balancing 25/10 when they open up terrace.

  16. #596
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    I'm happy paragon is still on top, even though it is not by much. I hope they get the first garalon kill and I also hope Blizzard does a better job balancing 25/10 when they open up terrace.
    garalons already been killed for a while, few of em on last boss

  17. #597
    Quote Originally Posted by steveyboy View Post
    So the account wide achieves are wrong and your not lying?
    I dont really see any reason to lie to people for no reason on the internet. I cant force you to believe me, but no, I am not lying. It could very well be that its bugged due to my other toon being on a separate account on the same Battle.net, but I dont know why that would be affecting it.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-10 at 04:22 AM ----------

    Have there been any peeps from Paragons IRC? I dont have the information or I would look for myself :P

  18. #598
    I'm quite impressed at how steveyboy was able to change the conversation from people calling him out on his stupidity to moveth's guild. The transition was Paragon-Heroic-Ragnaros smoothed.

  19. #599
    Quote Originally Posted by Einchy View Post
    I'm quite impressed at how steveyboy was able to change the conversation from people calling him out on his stupidity to moveth's guild. The transition was Paragon-Heroic-Ragnaros smoothed.
    It was rather impressive.

  20. #600
    Quote Originally Posted by Mammoon View Post
    IMO it is really interesting to see if Empress will be killed first by the best 25M EU guild, the best 25M US guild, or the best 10M guild.

    However, all this blind favoritism/hatred for 10m/25m is so pathetic. Seriously, there is like one 10 man guild working on heroic amber shaper (Paragon), and Blizzard hotfixes the boss.... and you assume that clearly it is cause the boss was too hard, and had nothing to do with the boss being broken......... This isn't your average guild wiping on it and saying it is incredibly difficult on 10 man, it is the best 10 man guild in the world.

    People are so terrified that if somehow Paragon clears 10 man HoF first then their entire world shatters....... if Paragon clears 10 man first doesnt that just prove that HoF was easier on 10 man, and that 25 man truly is the harder difficulty? If you have 10 amazing players who can kill a boss in 5 hours, and you have 25 equally amazing players who need 10 hours on the same boss, one can assume that in general the 25 man difficulty was harder.... and isn't that what all 25 man guilds want?

    God, you come to the forums only to see 25 man guilds whine about how they are the only true difficulty in this game, and then when their difficulty is actually harder than 10 man they whine about it...... don't you want 10 man to be easier so that it proves that 25 man is the true difficulty??????????

    FFS, either way Paragon/Method/BL/Vodka/(insert top world guild here) are amazing guilds with amazing players and dedication, and all you care about is yourself and making sure you play the game the way on the "correct" or "better" difficulty (whatever that even means).

    Just accept the fact that it is impossible to balance both 10 and 25 man, and that some fights will be harder than others, and that Blizzard does a piss poor job of actually testing these fights themselves and some bosses will be extremely buggy on certain difficulties and will need FIXES (not nerfs) before they are killed, and other fights will need NERFS (Vizier) before it is killed.
    since paragon has an history of wold first boss kills that doesnt prove it. what would prove it is a 25man guild that is norm top 10-15 in world switch to 10 man then get world first not number 1 guild switch and still number 1 guild.

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