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  1. #61
    Well the game itself isnt dangerous so a 12 year older cant handle it.
    However if the other people cant behave is another thing. That's why you can choose to put age limit on the guild and for example just let 18 year olders in.
    But when it comes to just being a game you play, I dont know... it was a 12 year old in a guild I was in once and he was one of the guilds most skilled players so I cant see why they would remove those kids from the game.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Izenhart View Post
    Your problem is not playing with minors, but rather thinking that talking to a 12 years old girl in an online game makes you some sort of creep.

    And that is sad
    well it's the constant bombardment from society

    if you're a single older dude you're basically assumed to be a pedophile waiting to happen according to the media

    If I told anyone irl I was talking to a 12 year old girl online they would immediately assume I was trying to meet with her or something, probably even have police called on me and everything.

    was actually just talking to her cause someone said something mean to her and she said she was crying.

    that's just what society is now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garkanh View Post
    well... :/ it amazes me more that people 30+ plays than 13- to be hornest. i'm 19 and have been playing since i was 14 myself.

    but i do agree, i'm pretty annoyed by the 14 years old kids in my guild myself
    There are more 30+ gamers than 13- gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rt7 View Post
    if you're a dude you're basically assumed to be a pedophile and rapist
    I fix'd that for you, no need to thank me. Now just tell me where you live and what your name is so I can call the local authorities.

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    Another thing to note here while on the subject of young fellow gamers, i see so many people judge younger players solely because of their age, Yet i have played since just after TBC launch, and have been the GM of a vast guild in that time, and played across many servers, and the most immature, annoying, and bad gamers are of around the 17number, They are at that point where they think they can take on the world, and know it all, Yet the younger gamers (11+) i've played alongside all strive to impress, they want to taken seriously as they know their age is against them, Ofcourse it won't be like this all round, there are very mature, and immature people of all ages, But this is in my experience^_^
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    They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I present to you the newest in Stark Industries' Freedom line. Find an excuse to let one of these off the chain, and I personally guarantee, the bad guys won't even wanna come out of their caves. Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration... the Jericho.

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    One of my old guilds my GL was 50+ and his daughter played as well and was 12 at the time we all met her. I spent a few years there but it was always uncomfortable having to watch what we said when she was online.

    I was much more comfortable after switching guilds to people closer to my own age who had the same type of humor I did and didn't mind.

    That being said, I've run into plenty of 16 year olds in game who were mature enough to handle that type of humor as well as project an image that they were older.

    My suggestion would be possibly looking for a smaller guild where you are comfortable with everyone.

  7. #67
    I was always confused by that only 18+ or 21+ guilds. Like..do you demand peoples information and run a back round check? I know people who act older..and younger, than they actually are. It's not that hard to be like, "Lol yea I'm 18. Whatevs. WHAR DAH EPIX AT?!" Granted using that -exact- sentence may not work out so well on the whole 'subtle' level..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoffry View Post
    I was always confused by that only 18+ or 21+ guilds. Like..do you demand peoples information and run a back round check? I know people who act older..and younger, than they actually are. It's not that hard to be like, "Lol yea I'm 18. Whatevs. WHAR DAH EPIX AT?!" Granted using that -exact- sentence may not work out so well on the whole 'subtle' level..
    In some cases it's people being stupid, they think that having an 18+ limit means they will have a more mature guild, Which is utter crap lol
    In other cases it's because people advertise it as an age restricted guild, so that way they can feel ok about saying things in gchat that minors shouldn't hear, so this way if someone complains about things said in gchat they can say that's why they have an age restriction
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Stark
    They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I present to you the newest in Stark Industries' Freedom line. Find an excuse to let one of these off the chain, and I personally guarantee, the bad guys won't even wanna come out of their caves. Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration... the Jericho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoffry View Post
    I was always confused by that only 18+ or 21+ guilds. Like..do you demand peoples information and run a back round check? I know people who act older..and younger, than they actually are. It's not that hard to be like, "Lol yea I'm 18. Whatevs. WHAR DAH EPIX AT?!" Granted using that -exact- sentence may not work out so well on the whole 'subtle' level..
    I hate to break it to you and everyone else who thought this comment, but it's hardly rocket science. Guilds obviously don't do a background check before they allow people to enter, they're several reasons why they use that in their recruitment.

    It discourages (but obviously doesn't stop) people under that age from applying.
    If they raid, then they probably want the raider to be the master of their own destiny. In other words able to actually decide when they want to raid and not be told when to raid by mommy or daddy.
    They want to be able to have mature conversation in guild chat. My guilds chat often consists of a sexual innuendo or two.
    Finally it gives them a very easy guilt free reason to kick a player if they are under the recruitment age. It stops that person being bitter about being kicked and gives the guild a valid defense if the kickee runs into trade chat trying to bad mouth the guild.

    OP if I were you I perhaps would want to cut down the flirting as much as possible, but other then that continue as normal. Obviously don't ever agree to have her on realID have her phone number, personal info etc, but if she isn't ready to hear the things that you often come out with then it's up to HER and HER PARENTS to stop her from hearing those things. I think it's insane that people here are saying that you should tone anything down. Why should your enjoyment of a game be hampered by her intellectual (or lack-of) development. That's what parents are for.

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    just be happy you didn't invite her over
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    WoW.

    Nudity ?! This is a game for 12 yo, you sick or something ?
    Booze ?! Oh, that is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellosaltygoodness View Post
    well the easiest thing to do would be to not make any sex comments at somebody until you at least know their age.

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    Indeed. Or even better: don't make sexual or any kind of offensive comments at all. It is a game after all - not a chatroom, a nightclub or a party...
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    @det but i like to flirt with some girls ( well i know how they look and how old they are)
    wow is like a chatroom, you don't see them you don't get to know the real version of them, just that i got some game elements^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Bob View Post
    WoW.

    Nudity ?! This is a game for 12 yo, you sick or something ?
    Booze ?! Oh, that is ok.
    ..and don't forget violence. Violence is great for kids of all ages. No way we want them to see people making love, but blowing their brains out? No problem there..
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    I started playing when I was 11/12 and I'm now 18. I don't care how old the player is and neither should you. As long as they're competent and can play well, who gives a fuck if they're black/white, 12 or 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkminaz View Post
    @det but i like to flirt with some girls ( well i know how they look and how old they are)
    wow is like a chatroom, you don't see them you don't get to know the real version of them, just that i got some game elements^^
    If you literally know that person face to face, I guess there is nothing wrong. Anything else and as you said, you may find yourself in a problematic situation. Obvioulsy everyone can post fake pictures of themselves or claim to be who they are not. Easy in typed chat, bit harder over vent.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Indeed. Or even better: don't make sexual or any kind of offensive comments at all. It is a game after all - not a chatroom, a nightclub or a party...
    Different guilds have different regulations. Requiring all members to be 18+ saves them from any feedback via gamers younger than that, with "We have a strict policy of 18+ and they lied."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobra View Post
    and the most immature, annoying, and bad gamers are of around the 17number,
    It's the 22-27 year-old bracket.

    They're out of college. Had their first sexual experience (well, maybe this is WoW). May have their first job (yet still being supported by mom and dad)...and think they know all about life. Smart enough to understand their environment, but not wise enough to have learned from history -- they are the worst of all.
    From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes. They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."
    Blizzard's blame game in action: Deleting 6,100+ of Kevyne's posts and threads from the WoW forums.

  19. #79
    Youngest I have ever met was 17, probably because I can't have an interesting conversation with anyone younger - so I have no idea how you got to talking with a 12 year old, as it must have been pretty self evident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helai View Post
    I started playing when I was 11/12 and I'm now 18.
    This might be the scariest thing I've read on the internet.
    We have people loose in the world now whose whole adolecense has been formed by World of Warcraft.

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