You can't congratulate them for killing something FIRST simply because they used a different means to complete their goal?
People these days and their need for self entitlement.
Congratulations to Arctica on their kills. I see no reason not to skip a boss if you feel you can't get it done. It reminds me of my Cata guild when we killed all the first bosses in Dragon Soul 25 man on heroic except Warlord Zonz because we suck.
A world first is just that, FIRST IN THE WORLD.
They killed it first, they get a world first. Oh look they did it again. 2 for them.
You must be one of those top guilds that cries that you can't put "World First" next to those boss names on your recruitment page. Seriously, get over yourself.
Or are you expecting other guilds to put "World First Kill of Imperial Vizier Zor'lok, Blade Lord Ta'yak, and Garalon in Linear Order." When they kill these bosses?
Last edited by Omnomnoms; 2012-11-08 at 09:24 PM.
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They shot themselves in the foot if they wanted to go for a world first end-boss kill this week.
I suspect most top guilds will do this toward the end of their raiding week if they don't down the first boss just to try and grab some gear.
so much butthuurt in this ebic thread
Last edited by Aciaedius; 2012-11-08 at 09:31 PM.
Anyway, its not like people will remember who killed theses boss in couple week. Maybe the guild that kill first boss and mostlikely who ever manage to kill final boss will be remembered for some time.
And anyway, like other here said, every single guild could skip the first boss. Arctica was just the first one to did it. Probably more will follow.
Edit : Sh**, im running out of pop-corn >_<
It's their own decision to skip first boss HC which happens to be major cockblock while next 2 are actually easier. They miss on endboss hc propably but they're adult, and i think they're aware. They could and did, world first is theirs. WF means exactly this - FIRST IN THE WORLD . No if's, no but's. If any other guild wants to they can hoop to 4th or 5th boss and get a world first on these heroics.
Get over it, lose your illusion and quit qq'ing with your imaginery "rules" that do not exist. Same goes for 10/25 debate. WF is WF, regardless of raid size. You could divide it into three categories actually - overall, 10man and 25 man. Everyone's happy. Mogushan Vaults results would be then like this
World First - Paragon
WF 10 - Paragon
WF 25 - Method
World Second - Method
Sometimes it's truly confusing that MMO champ community actually honors world first level 90 by Fz (or Fc) that was done in exploitative manner and character was deleveled by Blizzard but refuses to honor world first boss kill in completely legit way.
Last edited by Esubane; 2012-11-08 at 09:34 PM.
Yes, Arctica, how DARE you have fun with the game by skipping an unbeatable boss and fighting 2 next, suprising everyone? Don't you know it was Paragon and Method we were expecting? And about your own words that you "dont wanna participate in world first race"... How dare you not participate in it! Blizzard left you an option to skip a boss during progression, but you shouldnt use that!
And by the way, gratz, gratz to Arctica. You showed you've got guts, that there is no "big trio" that has monopoly over the HC raids, that you can threat raiding as a way to have fun, not as a mundane race. Salute.
What are the chances Paragon or Method will go 6/6 H HoF this week?
Seriously "HC HoF Race Ruined" what kind of doomsday-title is that, and why is everybody so mad?
+1 because Arctica.
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the only boss that matters is the final boss
Originally Posted by tkjnz
Inb4 all the "Lol 10s don't count!!" also...
Anyways, people have been skipping bosses since forever, what does it matter if they did 1st boss on normal, they got 2 HC WF kills because they did that. Any other guild could have done it, yet nobody did as they were too much into trying to kill an impossible boss. Anyway, I think that WF Vizier will be much better achievement than those significantly easier bosses.
So much butthurt in here... I don't see how boss skipping is new or bad. They chose to rather progress through the instance (and get more loot) for next week than going for killing the last boss this week. That's quite smart and if anything a tactic more guilds who don't aspire on killing all bosses this week should try tbh.
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