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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by probert View Post
    Well, if you've played 300-500 hours since launch you're going to be bored no matter what game you play.
    I keep hearing people say this, but tbh I've played around 400 hours (idk how much of that was afk) and I'm still having a blast. I work full time so that is a very large amount of hours - more so than people who practically play games for a living - nearly all my free time goes into this game.

    I played UO for probably 10000 hours over the space of 14 years and will probably play it again in the future. Also, Pangya, which wasn't a very well known game, I must have logged at least 3000-4000 hours before I burnt out on it. There were many people who did the same for all of those games. I'm sure many people played thousands of hours of WoW (a game I didn't enjoy). 100+ hours for any gamer is the sign of a pretty good game, but I was more wondering if people will play GW2 as their main game. Spacing out 500 hours of gameplay over multiple years isn't really the same thing I was asking - but I did get answers.

    The population of GW2 doesn't seem that high for how new it is, it will be interesting to see if it goes up or down at this stage. I sPvP all day and the game browser probably shows that there's less than 500 people playing at any given time (out of 2-3 million copies sold? That's 0.02% of people who bought the game in sPvP at any given moment). Obviously ANet were expecting more, because there are literally hundreds of empty game servers. There are more people logged on to a free Ultima Online server I play.. a game that came out in 1997.

    I guess my point with what seems to be conflicting points of view, is that I really enjoy this game and I want to see it succeed in a certain way that it doesn't seem to be currently doing. I'd love to see the PvP become a great esport that people like to watch. Maybe I'm just pessimistic though.

    edit: there's currently just over 200 people in spvp. There are more people playing CounterStrike source in New Zealand alone O_O
    Last edited by nightshark; 2012-11-13 at 06:33 AM.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by nightshark View Post
    So I say: Yes, it has longevity for me. I can see myself playing this game for a long time, especially with the regular content updates.
    Same here, I am enjoying it very much, and the only downside for me personally so far are the jumping puzzle gankers in the Eternal Battlegrounds. Other than that, no complaints.

  3. #83
    At its current state, no. It's deffinetly worth your money because i half rushed through everything and still spent 150 hours just to hit 80. After 80 i spent another 100 hours on just doing random things. I'm not 100% map yet so yea there is deffinetly more to do, but i find it lacking in some PvE aspect. However, if they keep pumping out monthly content like they are doing, then it won't be long before newcomers will be overwhelmed.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Exroyal View Post
    At its current state, no. It's deffinetly worth your money because i half rushed through everything and still spent 150 hours just to hit 80. After 80 i spent another 100 hours on just doing random things. I'm not 100% map yet so yea there is deffinetly more to do, but i find it lacking in some PvE aspect. However, if they keep pumping out monthly content like they are doing, then it won't be long before newcomers will be overwhelmed.
    ^ this.

    I was away for a while. Yesterday i started a new character (necro) and i have a blast. I expect another 200 - 300 hours of fun.

  5. #85
    Does it have longevity? Yes, like many people have said, it you does not burn yourself out, i have seen it way to many times, like my m8 in wow, he comes back to wow, play 24/7 for 4 weeks, then after that he stops. Guild wars is a fun game, but guild wars " road" is what the game is about, Guild wars do not have end game contenst, many people have said it, PVE is just stupid " oh we have no tank or healer" yeah, a wipe party is fun... But the PVP is amazing, and the world also just feels fun, as an engineer it never stops being funny running around with a flame trower, and then 10 mins later haveing greandes, or a elixir gun.

    It is a game that can be played for a long long time, it has the most fun PVP there is, the world is fun, you can not outlevel contenst. But NO it will never have as many players as wow does, or did. If you over play it, you will get sick of it, so then it is a no. But i mean i am suprsied that they updates the lost shores for free, that is really big of them, and if they have alteast the major events, it will have a bright future
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  6. #86
    It doesn't have WoW's style of longevity, which is a very, very good thing. They've avoided a true gear grind, and that's really important.

    However, as far as creating their own longevity... I'd say that for PvE players, it's only slightly better than other games of this scale. Skyrim, for example. PvP on the other hand always creates its own longevity for competitive players, and that is certainly popular.

    But yes, I think they could have done better for PvE-only fans. Remember the videos and talks Anet released before the game came out, explaining how they wanted players to feel like their actions impact the world around them? I think they could have done that better - and in doing so, could really improve their longevity.

    For example, what if there was a level 80 PvE equivalent of WvW? What if it had its own chain of server-wide, weekly events - each event complete with branching paths of various success and failure dictating what the next event would be - and moved forward every weekend with a grand battle? And during the week, you could go to the battlefield and do normal events that would help prepare for these weekend wars, to make them easier - make allies, sabotage the enemy, etc. What if every successful dungeon you played through made that weekend-event easier in some way for the whole server, too?

    And everything you did along the way steps you closer to special "this looks cool" gear, like the legendary weapons. I think that'd be pretty neat - especially if they kept expanding on it over time.
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    I think it does, but it really depends on player mentality. Personally the game will have a very long life for me - I love many things about it, genuinely have fun playing it and I do not have enough time to keep up with current content, so I'm always catching up anyways. For those not working/studying and have a lot of time, I can see where it'd have less longevity due to the "lack" of end game content. However, I still feel the game offers lots in other aspects aside from the gear grind; it's more a game you play just for fun, and go looking for fun things to do. It's just simply, not about the gear.

    I enjoy both this model and I've found the perfect game that keeps me both interested in playing it and WoW at the same time. The lack of subscription fee also serves to remind me how much more awesome this game is DESPITE "only" being a buy to play game.

  8. #88
    Its a really good question. I was super excited about GW2, I played every BWE and played maybe 200 hours after the launch. Im not really sure what happened but since 2-3 weeks, when I log in, I just wander around Lions Arch for 15-20 min and I log off. Its the same exact thing that happened to me in WoW.

    Maybe Im just tired of the genre... PvP is OK, I have 100% exploration on one of my toon, it was fun. Personnaly, I think I miss the trinity. It's almost like if playing with people doesn't change anything. Sure you have boons and small AoE heals, but there is no real tactic. Also, the fact that you are never OP is fun at the beginning, but after 100 hours at level 80, I'm tired. I don't see any progress on my main so I have to make alts.

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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavecryst View Post
    I think it does, but it really depends on player mentality. Personally the game will have a very long life for me - I love many things about it, genuinely have fun playing it and I do not have enough time to keep up with current content, so I'm always catching up anyways. For those not working/studying and have a lot of time, I can see where it'd have less longevity due to the "lack" of end game content. However, I still feel the game offers lots in other aspects aside from the gear grind; it's more a game you play just for fun, and go looking for fun things to do. It's just simply, not about the gear.

    I enjoy both this model and I've found the perfect game that keeps me both interested in playing it and WoW at the same time. The lack of subscription fee also serves to remind me how much more awesome this game is DESPITE "only" being a buy to play game.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    I really am sick of this "blame the players" crap used as an excuse for everything.

    There's not a whole lot to do in GW2 right now. That's not a matter of "rushing" or "burnout", it's just a matter of quantities. Unless you count "just walk around to various geometric figures on the map because it says so" as content, you can do pretty much everything in pretty short order.
    I have a whole lot to do, still getting better gear, still get costume sets I want, still working to finish completion of the map, still doing WvW, still doing puzzles and still doing dungeons what the hell else are we to expect to be doing?
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  11. #91
    still getting better gear
    I crafted my exotics in pretty short order, not really a long-term goal.

    still get costume sets I want
    I got exactly the costumes I wanted on my Thief and Necro at level 77 and level 25, respectively.

    still working to finish completion of the map
    That's really not..."content"...per se. I mean, you could make a case for it, but it's just a bunch of symbols on the map.

    still doing WvW
    WvW is fun right when a new match starts, but the battle lines tend to crystallize pretty early then the rest of the week is kinda meh. I could really go for shorter matches again, or something that lets the maps really "shake it up" a bit.

    still doing puzzles
    I've done enough of those to be over it now. Every one I've done so far - including the clock tower - has been fairly trivial and repetitive. (I did fail on the clock tower a handful of times, but not because of the puzzle so much as the unrelated visual annoyances.)

    and still doing dungeons
    I suppose you have a case there. Personally, I did a couple and just couldn't stomach the mechanics anymore. Pretty much just actively avoid them now. =/

    As you can see, none of what I just listed really has anything to do with "rushing" or "burnout"...it's just a bunch of stuff that's pretty quick and easy to complete. Unless you're a dedicated completionist, I just don't see a terribly large amount of things to worry about doing.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Unless you're a dedicated completionist, I just don't see a terribly large amount of things to worry about doing.
    Could say that about any game, especially if it's a game that you aren't particularly interested in.

  13. #93
    Could say that about any game, especially if it's a game that you aren't particularly interested in.
    Well, that IS fair...but you can still look at things objectively and say, "Ok, there's not a lot to do." or "Ok, there's plenty to do."

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    With the way the new patch has been made to address some main issues, I think that yes it does because I think that the team doing this thing has it in them to make it last.

  15. #95
    Yes, yes. Yes

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Well, that IS fair...but you can still look at things objectively and say, "Ok, there's not a lot to do." or "Ok, there's plenty to do."
    And there is plenty to do unless you decide you don't want to do it or like it or whatever, why do you even bother when you clearly hate the game so much? in fact do you even have time to play anything when you are stuck in here like an anti GW2 propaganda machine?
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  17. #97
    And there is plenty to do unless you decide you don't want to do it or like it or whatever, why do you even bother when you clearly hate the game so much? in fact do you even have time to play anything when you are stuck in here like an anti GW2 propaganda machine?
    Oh relax, we don't have to do this every time someone has a negative view of something around here.

    And yes, I suppose it depends on your view. Me, for instance, I cannot fathom how "map completion" is treated as content. Some people just love it, though. So while I reject that as "something to do", other people think it's a completely fair offering.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Oh relax, we don't have to do this every time someone has a negative view of something around here.
    You've posted hundreds of negative views by now sorry for pointing it out but that is quite strange behaviour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    And yes, I suppose it depends on your view. Me, for instance, I cannot fathom how "map completion" is treated as content. Some people just love it, though. So while I reject that as "something to do", other people think it's a completely fair offering.
    It's a goal to work towards even if "map completion" is not technically content in itself, the content is obviously completing the hearts and vistas something I still enjoy tons after reaching 80.
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  19. #99
    You've posted hundreds of negative views by now sorry for pointing it out but that is quite strange behaviour.
    I'm naturally super critical of games. Just in my nature, doesn't mean that I'm rabidly hating this or that game specifically. I spend a lot of time gaming, so I'm pretty finicky about...well, everything.

    Rest assured, for every thing that I say I hate about GW2, there's something else that I really like. Those topics just don't come up much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    Hey aren't you in for a surprise.
    That sounds vaguely negative why am I in for a surprise?

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