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  1. #761
    After recently raiding with a normal mode guild i find my dps lacking. I'm using SW and following the correct rotations. The only thing I see wrong is the weapon enchant.
    Armory- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Knocx/simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteroverlord View Post
    After recently raiding with a normal mode guild i find my dps lacking. I'm using SW and following the correct rotations. The only thing I see wrong is the weapon enchant.
    Armory- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Knocx/simple
    Fix your gems and enchants!
    Reforge away all expertise on items, all of it.
    Then gem exp + haste until you're expertise capped, when you get expertise capped with gems go for STR + haste gems.
    Blue gems should be hit + haste, your head gem is wrong.
    Stat prio is this: 2haste > 1str meaning that str gems are worthless because you can make expertise on gear into haste / mastery and gem exp + haste instead. Effectively making your exp on gems turn into haste or mastery, check my armory for an example of properly used gems + reforges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteroverlord View Post
    After recently raiding with a normal mode guild i find my dps lacking. I'm using SW and following the correct rotations. The only thing I see wrong is the weapon enchant.
    Armory- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Knocx/simple
    You are really under expertise cap. Cap expertise with exp + haste gems in red, you get more item budget points that way. Alternately, you are so over hit cap it hurts. Reforge off the hit on your boots, better yet get other boots...even wolfriders on flex are better than Sha boots for us. Put a straight Haste gem in your sword, 60 str isn't worth losing 160 extra haste and it'll help you get your hit down.

    Your cloak has no enchant. 180 crit is cheap as hell, not having orange cloak isn't an excuse.

    Dancing Steel on your weapon, not Windsong. Sha Crystals are cheap as hell thanks to TI, so buy some and get a guildie to enchant. Same with bracers, 180 str you're missing.

    Level your blacksmithing. Ditch mining if you want to squeeze some more stats out, if not it's not that big of a deal since profession bonuses are going byebye in WoD. I tank part-time so I'm keeping it personally.

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    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Tcbhome/simple
    (srry i can post a link to here.)

    What am I doing wrong? my dps its 120k

    My rotation: inq tv5 howaw tv4aw exoaw tvaw how exo cs j tv3 inqes ss

    Srry for my english

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    I'm not necessarily looking for help, but I would like for someone to look at my armory and logs. Just to check if I'm gemming, enchanting, etc. correctly. And whether my damage looks about right for my gear level.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Jayce/advanced
    Logs (Sha of Pride): http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done

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    Armory : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...inara/advanced
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=4 log for malk (closest to pure ST)
    My dps seems low even accounting for gemming/reforging, the missing 4 piece and no galakras trinket.
    Any suggestions to fix ? (The only mistake i realized later, is that since i wouldn't get a 3rd use out of HA/SW i probably should've delayed it till kings were up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    Armory : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...inara/advanced
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=4 log for malk (closest to pure ST)
    My dps seems low even accounting for gemming/reforging, the missing 4 piece and no galakras trinket.
    Any suggestions to fix ? (The only mistake i realized later, is that since i wouldn't get a 3rd use out of HA/SW i probably should've delayed it till kings were up)
    Well, for one, you're using HA. SW came out ahead in T15 even with the 4-piece inflating the DPET of TE and no EEoG, and HA is just a plain bad talent now. You also (comparing your Warcraftlogs with my own) seem to be snapshotting Execution Sentence rather poorly - I usually manage a DPET no lower than 750k over a whole fight, and even correcting for somewhat worse trinkets, you should be able to manage a DPET better than 400k at your iLvl.

    Not having even an LFR EEoG is obviously hurting your DPS by quite a lot, but taking HA and not snapshotting ES well certainly isn't helping.

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    Hmmm, got 4p so will test in flex soon.
    With ES wasn't sure. Currently using clcret and it uses it to fill up "empty" globals. (Plus for snapshotting, don't have that many AP procs)

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    Ditch CLCret and get something like Revvo's WeakAura setup. CLCret is a crutch and can't think ahead in the same way a player can - it'll never tell you to refresh an Inq early to avoid refreshing it during Wings, for example, even though that may be the best thing to do.

    You also need to stop using ES to simply fill empty globals if you intend to do simDPS - it is your highest DPET ability by a wide margin, and messing up your snapshot on pull is a significant DPS loss.

    Edit: That is not to say you should not use ES more-or-less on CD - merely that if you're, say, 1 stack from a Spark proc and ES comes off CD, don't just blindly mash it - wait a few seconds for the proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PraisetheSun View Post
    Ditch CLCret and get something like Revvo's WeakAura setup. CLCret is a crutch and can't think ahead in the same way a player can - it'll never tell you to refresh an Inq early to avoid refreshing it during Wings, for example, even though that may be the best thing to do.

    You also need to stop using ES to simply fill empty globals if you intend to do simDPS - it is your highest DPET ability by a wide margin, and messing up your snapshot on pull is a significant DPS loss.

    Edit: That is not to say you should not use ES more-or-less on CD - merely that if you're, say, 1 stack from a Spark proc and ES comes off CD, don't just blindly mash it - wait a few seconds for the proc.
    What is the benefit or Revvo's WeakAura's over CLCret? They appear to serve the exact same purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampmoose View Post
    What is the benefit or Revvo's WeakAura's over CLCret? They appear to serve the exact same purpose.
    Revvo gives you a broad overview of your HoPo generators and their CD progress, as well as your Inq. This allows you to make reasoned decisions about which button to press.

    CLCRet simply mindlessly tells you which button to press, and will make the wrong recommendations at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PraisetheSun View Post
    Revvo gives you a broad overview of your HoPo generators and their CD progress, as well as your Inq. This allows you to make reasoned decisions about which button to press.

    CLCRet simply mindlessly tells you which button to press, and will make the wrong recommendations at times.
    Revvo's weak auras just save you the trouble of configuring multiple components of your UI. I place CLCret just above HoPo generators and a very similar Inq bar, and HoPo tracker is in the same area as well. Visually they are pretty similar, but mine's not as pretty.

    So while the only real difference is that CLC recommends which HoPo generator to hit next, it's just that, a recommendation. Placing it near those generators and other important things allows you to make the same educated decisions the WA do.

    If you're tunneling CLCret and have your action bars hidden in the bottom corner of your screen, that's not a bad addon, just a bad player.
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    Why can I post my logs and links

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    Prob too low post count on MMO-Champion, think you need 10 posts before links becomes share-able
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    Prob too low post count on MMO-Champion, think you need 10 posts before links becomes share-able
    Thank you now I know.

  16. #776
    Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see this referenced in the main post of the Ret guide. Been playing a monk all expansion, but am getting back into my paladin for CMs, and I'm confused on the cooldowns.

    When are you supposed to use Guardian of the Ancient Kings, and Avenging Wrath? Am I supposed to be popping both at the same time?

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    @Forumchibi: Yes, whenever possible. The common line of thought is to line up their cooldowns as much as you can, but to not waste a cooldown if the combat will be over before then.

    If you're not using SW, then you will want to delay wings for a few seconds after using GoAK so that their buffs will expire at the same time.

  18. #778
    Is Holy Avenger that bad? I used it in a burst opener and got to 730k but dropped to 500-600k after it was gone and sustained it for about 10 seconds as 565 iLvl, with SW, I got 480-500k dps but was able to sustain it for about 30 seconds. Is holy Avenger only good on some fights or is Sanctified wrath better over all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Variann View Post
    Is Holy Avenger that bad? I used it in a burst opener and got to 730k but dropped to 500-600k after it was gone and sustained it for about 10 seconds as 565 iLvl, with SW, I got 480-500k dps but was able to sustain it for about 30 seconds. Is holy Avenger only good on some fights or is Sanctified wrath better over all.
    Holy Avenger is a terrible talent. The DPET in your level of gear for TV is actually LOWER than that of HoW, to not even speak of the fact that HoW is also a HoPo generator. Furthermore, HA is not affected by the CDR of EEoG.

    Put simply, if you are getting better results with HA than with SW, then you are doing the SW rotation wrong. Even DP is ahead of HA at this point, if my memory does not fail me completely.

  20. #780
    hi, my Retri-paladin has EEoG-hc and PToR(Primordius' Talisman of Rage)-hc, would it be worth to replace PToR with the trinket from Norushen?

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